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Early 20th Century African American Woman Photo Credit
by Alondra
The natural hair world is like one big university. What an interesting way to start off a blog, right?
I’m serious though, it’s as if I wake up every morning and report to class of some sort. Every day, thanks to beloved social media, I’m learning something different. Be it product information, hair care tips, or even the science behind hair…I’m getting schooled on it all! Most recently I had one of the most enlightening discussions with one of my curl mates (like class mates…get it?). Any who, the convo went a little something like this:
“Girl, I heard that we (Black women) traditionally grease our scalps because the slaves used to do it, but not to help grow their hair. They would put petroleum jelly on their scalps to prevent fleas and ticks from feeding on their scalps.”
If this tid bit of history just made you have an “Ahhh, ” moment then you’re just like me. I had never heard this before!
However, it immediately made me go back in time to the days when I was sitting in between my mom’s legs as she parted my hair and slapped that “Blue Magic” on my head. I remember getting up with a head shiny enough to compete with the moon at night and feeling like my hair was infallible because of it. But now…after not greasing my scalp for years, I can honestly say that it did nothing for me. All it did was make my hair heavy and limp!
Of course we haven’t totally booted the “scalp oiling” practice. We now know that treating the scalp with oil is conducive to achieving goals; but the thick grease… we could do without. This conversation led me to wonder, what other common hair care practices exist that have stuck with us since slavery?
Now, we all swear by sleeping in our satin bonnets and for the fancy, lying on a satin pillow case…but exactly how did this come about? While I was doing my research, I found that the slaves would cover their heads in cloths to:
1. Hide it from the sun, cold and other elements during the day (mainly to stay cool or warm)
2. Hide any bald patches that were caused by ringworms and other skin infections
3. Protect their hair and scalp at night from insects while they slept.
It wasn’t until many years later that it was discovered that covering the hair in satin scarves would not only protect it but also be beneficial to the health of the hair!
Much like the human race and even technology, natural hair care has its own story of evolution and I am 100% here for it chile! The natural hair community is rich with history and I, for one, will come prepared with my pen and paper ready to take notes because you can’t truly love what you don’t truly know.
Are there any historical hair care facts that you’ve uncovered during your natural hair journey? Please share with us what you know! Each one teach one, girlfriend!
Source: Hair Story: Untangling the Roots of Black Hair in America
About Alondra: Joke telling, hair pick toting, life-living Southern Bell by way of Memphis, Tennessee. I’m a young,educated black woman pursuing dreams by day and a super hero by night; my powers reside in my mind. To state it simply, I plan to save the world one conversation at a time. @Color_Me_Diva @MyManeThang
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Growing up in Johannedburg Africans used Vaseline and whites used Brylcream. Vaseline in hair made it easy to get a comb through the hair. Uncombed hair was considered uncivilized or in Christian.
Years later African women discovered the hot comb which traveling through greased nappy hair morphed into straight hair. That wasprogress!
My daughter who thank God still has her natural hair informs me dry hair among people of the African species breaks unless treated with grease. “That’s white propke have lice in their hair and we don’t. “ so let’s give credit to African-American women ancestors. Hallelujah!
Hello, I Just stumbled onto this website and the topic intrigue me. As a schoolteacher of elementary students, I find that parents who grease the scalps of their children are less likely to have lice. One of the cures to having lice, besides the delouse shampoo, is to oil the scalp to prevent the nits from remaining in the head. And yes, this is where the term nit picker originated.
Hi. Petroleum jelly wasn’t invented until 1859 and it wasn’t manufactured until 1870. I wonder if the slaves used some other sort of grease or animal fat instead?
Bear Grease
I have been natural hair wearing girl since 2000 or 1999 I try my chemicals in my hair when I was in my teens but they just made my hair fall out. I brought my daughter up on natural hair wash grease scalp brush braid and go. The first chance she got after turning 19 she permuted and dye her hair one year later she had to cut it all off so badly damaged. To me natural hair I say” Chemical and product free” hair is just easier
I didn’t know that about petroleum jelly, Terri! Lard would have been plentiful on any plantation and in any household. About the same consistency as petroleum jelly. Perhaps, later on, field hands after abolition used petroleum jelly? I have white friends with very curly hair who use black hair products because they usually work better than all that “designer” stuff.
Seems like your demographic comprises the bulk of the demand for tanning beds & places to lie in the sun, exposing yourself to getting malignant melanoma trying to get what people of color have naturally. You say your hair makes you look younger. There’s more to looking younger than just hair. My siblings,pals & I went to high school & college with lots of white kids & at reunions WE ARE ALWAYS THE YOUNGEST LOOKING ONES BECAUSE OF THE MELANIN IN OUR SKIN. Even if some of us are gray haired & bald, there are very few wrinkles, crows feet, & weathered skin. No facelifts at all. BLACK DON’T CRACK is no joke. Sure we can sunburn if exposed to more UV rays than we’re used to but we don’t make a practice of lying in the sun & we do use sunscreen. Fair skinned people need to accept their skin as it is & stop trying to tan. I know numerous ones who’ve had melanomas removed from faces,chests & backs. As you said above “It’s all something you do to yourselves, get over it , Honey”
Lil Kim, Nikki Minaj, Oprah , No facelifts? Ok.
/Plastic surgery to conform to false ideas of beauty, imagined imperfections & lack of self acceptance not because they NEEDED IT. Lil Kim’s face has been a horror show. Most black & white celebs who have butt & breast lifts,face implants & other nonsense don’t really need it. Society puts too much emphasis on what people look like,how much they weigh & a false idea of the perfect face & body
just as an aside most melanomas occur on skin that isn’t exposed to the sun – but i get your point
???, sorry..some of these replies made me laugh a bit…I had also read about “grease” keeping ticks and such off the scalp..My grandfather told me that “grease” was good for my scalp to keep bugs away…his mother was a slave….ijs..as I got older I stopped using it because I felt it weighed down my hair…I’ve been “natural” for about 4 years now, I wear my hair curly, wavy, straight…I’ve had braids and weave….whatever works for your hair, keep doing it…don’t down people because of it. I use what people call products for “white” girls in my hair, it works for me…I also use either coconut or olive oil mixed with shea butter..works for me…?
Nah I’ll hang around
So you ARE trolling. Okay then. Get a life.
kiss my narrow lily ass , apegash
So interesting! I haven’t really looked into the history of black hair but this article makes me want too. The lice part was interesting, I remember getting it in the fourth grade, sucked! I use grease on my hair all the time, blue magic is my hair’s bff! I’ve tried every oil, mixtures, products, and nothing works as well as Blue Coconut Conditioner if used with my LOC method as a sealant. Works wonders.
Wow! Are you people serious? You are ruining a half decent article about a few bits of info that she decided to share with the world, be it right, wrong or so far gone. My mother would grease my scalp as a kid and my four sisters as well and for good reason too. It helped for all kinds of reasons so all you history buffs and historians can back off. Here are a few FACTS and a little RESEARCH for you. Firstly we really don’t give a damn about when petroleum jelly was thought about when, where or why. Black women wrapped there hair up at night probably for the same reasons they do now, to keep from waking up to a horrible mess to comb out all over again in the morning especially if they just paid to have it done.The FACT is MY mother used the Blue Magic Brand for years on us because that’s what the closest store for her to walk to had blue, green and white. You try combing the long hair of five black kids with nothing in it and see what kind of war you are in for. I bet you wouldn’t make it past 2. I have two daughters myself of mixed race, with long curly hair. My wife comes home with all kinds of products to manage their hair and when all that doesn’t work, good ole dad (the Black one) goes to my secret weapon Blue Magic hair CONDITIONER its not grease people read the jar we just call it that! And yes they come out shining like new pennies in the summer sun without a tear in their little eyes. I have to say the FACT is as a dad I’m ok with that. Almost forgot, my neighbor of Caucasian decent called today and notified us that their having a little problem with the L word as they put it. How cute its lice and since our children play together all the time guess what I’ll be doing tonight! That’s right GREASING SCALPS! why CAUSE IT WORKS!
Hosea 4:6
My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge,
“Firstly we really don’t give a damn about when petroleum jelly was thought about when, where or why.”
Ok, but your point is………….
The article states:
“Girl, I heard (hearsay) that we (Black women) traditionally grease our scalps because the slaves used to do it, but not to help grow their hair. They would put petroleum jelly on their scalps to prevent fleas and ticks from feeding on their scalps.” (I find that statement offensive….)
“Blue Magic hair CONDITIONER its not grease people read the jar we just call it that!”
REALLY!!! below is list of ingredients.
Blue Magic Conditioner Hair Dress (correct name)
Ingredients: Petrolatum , Lanolin , Lecithin , Paraffinum Liquidum (Mineral Oil) , Fragrance , Green 6CI 61565 , Violet 2CI 60725
Men lie, Women Lie, but ingredients don’t lie.
Don’t be mad!! I didn’t say don’t use it and that it didn’t work in certain situations. But this is not slavery days and you don’t suppose to believe everything people tell you even on the internet…
Hosea 4:6
My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge,
You find the fact that flees and ticks plagued slaves offensive? Do you really think slaves were concerned with the health and growth of their hair at the time? It makes more sense that women who wanted to maintain their hair were more concerned with the functional benifits of grease and head wraps.
ok greasy scalp. Try changing that stuff now and then it stinks! Whew!
Petroleum jelly was not even thought about until 1859 and slavery ended 1865. Please do your research before spreading hearsay….The raw material for petroleum jelly was discovered in 1859 in Titusville, Pennsylvania, United States, on some of the country’s first oil rigs. Workers disliked the paraffin-like material forming on rigs because it caused them to malfunction, but they used it on cuts and burns because they believed it hastened healing.
In the first part of the twentieth century, petroleum jelly, either pure or as an ingredient, was also popular as a hair pomade. When used in a 50/50 mixture with pure beeswax, it makes an effective moustache wax.
Source Wikipedia
Wow! This is cool. I remember learning about the true effects of greasing the scalp in cosmetology school but never knew the origin of it. Thank you!
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my northern European heritage afforded me the ability to grow long thick shiny hair with zero effort and I would never muck up my hair with any type of grease or oil .I can sweep it back into a “man bun” or leave it flow down my shoulders . Several women of color have remarked that they wish their hair would grow as well as mine.
As I mature into my 40s , I have some gray but no thinning in fact, it seems to grow just as thick and quick . I get a crew cut after about 2 and a half years of doing nothing just to show everyone how well my hair grows and when I do , everyone says I look 10 years younger. Then I let it go and grow for another 2 and a half years and I dont think about it at all. I might wash it everyday some weeks if I get hot and sweaty or once a week if I’m being lazy.
I marvel at how black women make such a big deal about white people and black hair , Honestly DO WHATEVER YOU WANT, your hair is not a big part of my life. I cant ever remember thinking “OH LOOK AT THAT BLACK WOMAN’S KINKY NATURAL HAIR or OH THANK GOD SHE TAMED THAT AWFUL NATURAL HAIR” .
It’s all something you do to yourselves, get over it , Honey
…So why exactly are you perusing a site called Black Girl Long Hair if you care nothing about our hair and hair care practices?
i clicked on it because of the heading and was directed to the site. Seemed interesting. I have had many black women tell me they wish their hair grew like mine and i never understood why they put blue magic , vaseline and other cheap pomades on their hair. Never made sense to me .
Jesus be an idiot filter. Are you a troll, Dick Dick?
Black women use petroleum based cosmetics on their head for a multitude of reasons. None of them concern you, and your subtle attempt at a humble-brag was not missed. You know why our hair is “a big deal”. If you didn’t know, you wouldn’t be refuting it so confidently.
Although, I guess it’s entirely possible that you’re the type of idiot that pretends to know all about things they know nothing about.
But that’s okay, our hair is better. It grows long and has character. It doesn’t look the same on any of us–every single Black natural-haired head is an 11th fingerprint, an idiosyncratic entity that looks good in any style.
Have fun being uninspiring, dull, and lame.
seems like theres a big market for wigs and extensions , jus sayin ……
Umm, yeah. Because White Supremacy told us that our hair is unacceptable for centuries, and/or some women want to change their hairstyle every once in a while. What exactly is your point?
You won’t find any women on this site that are jealous of White hair. Why are you even here? Go back to Stormfront, scum.
At least weaves,wigs & extentions…which lOTS of white women also use….. WILL NOT KILL YOU.
Just sayin’
“Will not kill you” ….huh? So are you referring to tanning beds? Whatever, I look waaaay young for my age . Black dont crack huh? I dont know. Rihanna closing in on Eartha Kitt territory , FAST! Bobby Brown? Flavor Flav? PLENTY of cracks. I just read one of Retta’s Tweets saying she MUST have straightened hair. Who is MAKING her do that? Me?
seems like your demographic comprises the bulk of the demand for wigs and extensions .
Very interesting. I remember being a little girl and while my friends of no color had lice, my mom never worried about it because of all the freeze in my hair. LOL Good article.
Great comment
KABOOM!
You might want to look further back than slavery. There are depictions of women on Egyptian walls with small mounds of fat/grease on their heads that they allowed to melt. It wast also done to moisturizer the scalp. Oils and fats were often used in African rituals…remember being anointed with oil? Always start from our origin. Never just stop at slavery. That was not our beginning. Peace
How does this account for African women wearing colorful head scarfs for centuries?? Also I was told by a Ghanian woman that did my hair that they used oil on their scalp to keep moisture locked into their hair….
I use a satin pillowcase because I’m fancy. 🙂
Although I find the article enlightening, I think it is a little misleading (somewhat) Ethiopians coat their hair in butter/ animal fat to protect it.. wrapping the hair is an obvious African tradition that crosses many cultures through out the continent egyptians, muslims, african weddings, etc. also practice this tradition. So, yes these traditions may have evolved into slavery but they surely did not begin there…. ijs
Exactly..
This was a pretty good read very informative. Since being natural I never grease my scalp at all either and even though I tend to have a dry scalp during certain seasons grease never really did much for me. I eventually learned oils helpd grease was just a mess.
Grease is a solid form of oil so it’s the same practice being discussed. Also some of this information does not add up. Black women started the practice of wearing silk hair bonnets during slavery? How do we explain there widespread use by White women? Also, there is no mention of the women’s status as Muslims, nor of African religious and cultural practices related to tying, oiling and adorning our hair – practices that pre-date slavery.
I’m black, and so is my family and most of my friends. In all of my 33years of living, I have never seen or heard of a black person with lice. I have seen biracial people get it, but never black…
Yes blacks can get lice but its unusual and uncommon. My grade school class would be infested when i was a child and I along with a handful of other blacks never got it. That is fact and this was the case more than once.
There were also laws that prohibited newly freed slaves from displaying their hair and arousing blue eyed men.
It does relate to the free Blacks in America. The laying the hair close to the scalp with parts and grease, was what allowed some to be determined a free Negro, versus a slave. I agree not everything relates to slavery; however, this actually does.
It does relate to the free Blacks in America. The laying the hair close to the scalp with parts and grease, was what allowed some to be determined a free Negro, versus a slave. I agree not everything relates to slavery; however, this actually does.
There are Black Jews Tamara (I’m one). But Ava sounds more like a Hebrew Israelite. Similar words and terminology; but completely different message than Judaism!
We as blacks have always cared for our hair. In Africa a woman’s hair was her crown. They did elaborate and ornate styles using combs, gems, and fabrics. These things were incorporated into the hair styles itself. When we were taken as slaves the first thing the white man did was forbid us to use combs ( no styling of the hair). Knowing how we felt about our hair as black women this tactic was used to degrade us. (Forbid combing, then talk about our hair being nappy and tangled). Just one of the many things done to try and make us feel less than
human.
So did black people not do these things before slavery then?
Well I am African and I always grease my hair. In African almost everyone grease their hair and there is no slavery issue attached to it we grease our scalp to protect from drying out and breakage and it also enhances beauty maybe u should do your research on this. And as for the satin part not everyone tie their hair on satin I don’t. and not only black people tie hair on satin…. like nothing related to slavery. And do you think slaves had all the choices to cover their hair and grease their scalp? They suffered they he’d bigger issues to deal with. Stop associating slavery to stuffs it makes people feel bad if u don’t mind.
I don’t grease my scalp at all. The reasons that you have cited are not true for all. The author of this story has a more plausible reason for the origin of greasing the scalp. I use satin caps because I noticed early in my natural hair Journey that when I sleep on synthetic fibers, my hair would snag on my pillows. I tie my hair to stop this from happening. We all have our reasons for why we do what we do, but these reasons-unless proven otherwise, should never be stated for all. For my natural hair regimen I wet my hair every morning while in the shower, towel dry, and apply non greasy leave in conditioner. My hair is healthy and beautiful with absolutely no pore clogging grease.
The slaves in slavery came from Africa, yes.. She also did say that they possibly did it for those reasons back then but it evolved to be because of different reasons now.. Don’t be so quick to negate an article.. Make sure you open your mind and actually read first..
Agi – with all due respect grease (the ingredients in grease) dries out our hair…this forum is about our hair so regarding what others do (tying their hair) is not really the issue. I personally use a silk scarf since I was very young because it locked in the Natural oils of our my hair – eliminating the process of ‘greasing’ the scalp if you will.
You may find that cleansing your scalp w/ baking soda & vinegar will help to bring it back to a healthy pH balance and using oils (NOT GREASE) such as Almond, Unrefined Coconut, Grapeseed, EVOO would be beneficial. We are all always learning and growing this forum is about that not about tearing down, making statements intended to hurt or harm.
Enjoy your day!
Evaporation and improper moisturizing dries hair, not grease. Just like any other oil, it’s a sealant and can be used to keep the hair moisturized when applied the correct way. Also, the petroleum/petrolatum in grease has been refined to cosmetic grade, so it does not clog pores. Lack of regular cleansing is what allows enough buildup to to accumulate and clog pores. I literally add grease to my hair daily after spritzing with water and I don’t have any issues. My hair is currently waist length and I’m growing it to my hips.
Are you the Shaniqua that always gave $20 blowjobs ?
I think you should go take your meds.
Growing up my mom had explained to me and my siblings that the reason black people did not get lice when there was an outbreak at school, was because the grease on our scalps would not allow lice to live in our hair.
I am a 68 yo Black female and I grew up “greasing my scalp.” If I didn’t grease it I developed dandruff. Big, big pieces of flaky dandruff. I can’t recall when I stopped this ritual, but I no longer have a dandruff problem .
The texture of your hair has nothing to do with the natural oils it produces. Brushing with a baby hair brush from scalp to tip will oil your hair nicely. Oil is necesary Greece is not.
The texture of your hair doesn’t have anything to do with how much oil it produced but it does have a lot to do with how oil travels on the hair. Oil moves easier on straight to slightly curly hair. It is very hard for oil to move on kinky hair. Which is why we have to keep our hair moisturized. We can do this with GREASE or OIL it’s all about what works for your hair.
Dry hair will get lice that is why white people get it so much you don’t find it as much in black people as you do with them also back then to grease your hair were to help keep the hair from drying out while in the sunshine all day and in winter as well both are bad on our hair
Greece is a country.
I oil my scalp and hair often and bun it up daily to protect it from breakage because letting the hair hang loosley damages the hair while rubbing against the clothing
We can get them, but it rarely occurs because of the grease and oils we put in our hair. It makes it harder for the lice to attach /grip. Those who use little to no product tend to get them when exposed.
The scalp does not need to be moisturized with grease or oil but our hair does!! Covering your hair at night also locks in moisture (my hair gets VERY dry) and I need to hold on to all the moisture I can get.
While I’m all for looking into the history of black hair practices if you are claiming you’ve done some kind of historical research then you have to get things right. I’m a stickler about that as a historian. Well it’s very likely that putting “grease” on the hair was to reply lice (they definitely don’t like that) it probably was also for moisture. The thing is you classmate is probably not right about the petroleum jelly part. It wasn’t even discovered till the late 1800s (towards the end of slavery) and was used on machinery. Vaseline, the brand, wasn’t such a thing till 1870. I’m being picky but I’m just saying check the sources of information.
Yes I was waiting for the sources! I hate how blacks make claims about slavery as if it’s fact with no actual evidence. Also, “greasing” the scalp basically involves rubbing the scalp which is great and braiding the hair/caring for it before bed. I used to do this as a child and although I don any more (too greasy) I wouldn’t say there’s no benefit.
Well I wasn’t attacking “blacks”. I am one. I was simply critiquing the very common practice seen across the internet of historical claims (on a variety of topics) without reputable primary or secondary sources. I would like to see evidence which this person may have if they really did research. It’s simply a historian’s pet peeve.
I have three daughters that’s natural and heading they hair is not a must….IF, they wash they hair regularly, comb and brush it out with the right brush, tie they hair down every night, and eat right. The foods you ingest and the foods some lack to ingest play a roll in your hair health. The types of shampoos and conditioners matter too. All shampoos and conditioners is not meant for all African American/black people just because it say it on the bottle. I went without a perm for a year and a half and you could tell unless I let my hair go for a week or two, which I didn’t after the first time I did,and I did not experience damage or breakage to my hair like some people say you will if you don’t keep up with the perm after getting one. And, I barely greased my scalp because it makes me itch more and faster than not greasing it. All people is different! You can’t say what her experience is with not greasing her hair is false or say she don’t know what she’s talking about. The most I used was oils or creams on mine and my daughter’s hair. If I use grease it’s a thin coat or I rub it in my hand and onto they hair rubbing/massaging to I see it on their scalp. But grease is not my cup of tea…all the time! To each it’s own, right?
You comment is driving me crazy, I hope English is your second language.
I hope shutting the f*#% up is your first…
So it is not your first language, thought as much. “To each it’s own,”.
May I add that I am glad that made sense to you.
I have exzema and If i don’t oil my hair every 3 days it will burst out into soars. So i have to oil it. even my skin will start to scratch n turn into rashes. Lotion never helped my dry skin, only purlene jelly can help my scalp n skin. No lotion is every moist enough for me. My skin would look as if it was never lotion from the day i was born.lol
It is to keep the hair moist , and our scalps need it(the moisture for growth. If you don’t know what you are talking about, just don’t say anything at all.
Agree!
Did you even read what she said she is talking about putting all that unnecessary grease in your hair she didn’t say anything about not moisturizing it.
Oil is necesary. Grease is not.
Our scalp produce natural oils and don’t require grease. Maybe you should “just don’t say anything”. Moisture is for our hair, not our scalp. She wrote this about the proposed history that she was informed of. Not to debate opinions.
Grease does not add moisture to your hair. This is a myth that the natural hair movement tries desperately to dispel.
No it doesn’t but it can seal in moisture
But it cannot seal in what is not there, which is what the original post seems to imply. Our scalps definitely do not “need it” for growth.
Before colonialism, a large majority of African groups were nomadic so it may be that the group from which the tradition came currently is found in North Africa
I don’t know about all this history crap. What I do know is the scalp is like the rest of the skin on the body except it grows alot of hair on it. My scalp needs lubricating after a wash or else it’ll get too dry, flake-up and itch because of lack of moisture. I got that nappy, brittle hair, which doesn’t naturally produce it’s own oil like those who have naturally, fine, bone-straight hair.
It is playing white people’s racial game to concede that Egyptians are white or Asian if they don’t look like a Eurocentric version of a West African.[Meaning the 15th century white supremacist chattel slavery archetype of “the Black” or “the Negro”.] Egypt is apparently the ONLY country in Africa that apparently never had Africans. How convenient. Especially since very dark brown skin is a later evolution in Africa. It is more than likely that the general skin pigmentation of the FIRST Africans [located in East Africa around modern day Ethiopia] was much lighter than it is today and closer to the skin complexion of the Khoisan people of Southern Africa. Skin color is largely only an adaptation to the environment. People closer to the equator all over the world tend to have darker skin, which blocks harmful UV rays. For a long time it has been argued that the Khoisan not “true Africans” and that Egyptians were not “black Africans” when the very term “black African” and “Sub-Saharan African” are racist constructions with no basis in ANY kind of reality EXCEPT for the deluded colonial-era reality whites choose to live in.
People don’t realize just how DIVERSE people of African descent are JUST on the African continent by itself. We were the first MODERN human beings. Africans have have had over 120,000 years to be genetically and biologically diverse. The other “races” of the world have been here for less than 50-60,000
years of human history and they come from ONE SMALL GROUP of a few hundred people that left Africa and went on to populate the rest of the world. This explains why there is more genetic diversity in Africa than anywhere else in the world and why all the genes and phenotypical features found in OTHER human populations can be found IN AFRICA. The history of humanity ITSELF largely the history of the people of Africa.
@Mmmdot, that was very Insightful and good to know. I appreciated that.
The type of lice in a colder climate(America, Europe and so on) would not necessarily survive in our hair. But in warmer climates(Africa…) dif. Species of lice will.
It not that blacks can’t get lice but we do not carry that like white people do our hair is to dry that is why we have to put the oil in our hair and white people have to wash their hair every day we don’t we can go weeks without washing our and it won’t smell our hair is strong and beautiful like we are.
*sighs* The part about the frequency of washing in not true. People with straight hair need to wash with shampoo frequently to rid their hair of excess oil. Those of us with super curly hair (Africans) need to wash our hair frequently for moisture! This myth that we don’t need to wash our hair often is why it breaks. Notice that I did not mention shampoo. Afro-textured hair thrives when it gets so little as plain water on a daily or every-other day basis. Oil travels down straight hair too quickly, while *moisture* leaves our hair too quickly.
You don’t have to wash your hair for moisture. You have to wet it or add moisture to it. Buttons statement still stands that we can go weeks (I will add months) without washing our hair and it won’t smell. That is true.
Don’t believe that lie! I live in Michigan, and found out in December that I had head lice! I don’t know how (but I have my suspicions). Black people in America can definitely get lice!
for all of you that are going on about Egyptians. I live in Egypt, Egyptians do not like African American blacks, even tho they are black they wont c laim it. They will try to claim white and everything else but black. Now while I will not use grease in the African American community this was all we had, There was no such thing as internet, The world has come along way and there are better products out there for our hair. Now with that said. The Egyptians I know will claim they are white and instead of saying they are african they will call their self Egyptian even tho this is north africa. The Egyptians in present day now, use grease relaxer perms and bleach their hair. I had a friend here in Egypt whos e gyptian I watched her wash her hair and then use grease either blue magic or royal crown, and her hair is too her ass. So when I told her thats not good to use shes said this is what her mom used on her as a girl and she is going to keep us ing it cause it works for her. So I mean I guess people going to do what t hey want. And on the fact that blacks cant get lice, that a lie , African American can get lice, its not limited to one race, sorry to tell you but that stupid to think.
You are absolutely wrong. Of course their were neck Egyptians. Nubians were there before and around the time Arabs made their way to Egypt. A good portion of modern Egyptians LOOK like are part nubian.
Natural hair care didn’t start during slavery ir goes beyond that. Before salvery they were in Africa treating their hair with herbs, berries, and oils. They also wore elaborate hairstyles that would be immediately chopped off as soon they were taken into slavery. When their hair started to grow back due to the lack of berries, oils and etc. they started wearing the bonnets as well because they could no longer maintain their hair. If they were lucky they’d sneak any bit of grease (cooking oil, pig fact,etc.) to try and maintain their hair. Even the ancient egyptians (whom were black) practiced hair care. A lot of people don’t know their hair was actually wigs. Those wigs were made from both human and animal hair, and when they did wear their natural hair they’d take some animal fat that had been infused berries and perfumes and stand under the sun so it could melt slowly onto their scalp. There’s a LOT of old hair care secrets feom ancient times until now.
your response has more relevant information than the damn article!
That’s exactly what I was thinking. Where did the slaves get it from? They weren’t always slaves and they were taken from the motherland. Grease had to have been used back home too or it was a good substitute for what was used. Thanks for posting.
This is true. But you guys forget that Africans ALSO wear scarves and have been doing so for centuries. The conclusion is, that the slaves continued many of their ways when they were brought to the real world.
I enjoyed the article and learned something more. My Mom always did a weekly wash on our hair with (hair rep and blue magic et al). We never had problems with hair lice. Grease was always used on our hair. Oils were never in the budget. Another great learning story on how it came about regarding how and why grease was used on African American hair. I am sure there is so much more to learn about that era.
I am a mixed race woman with children by a white man. My daughters came home from school with head lice, and they even gave it to me.
When I was younger, I used heavy petroleum jelly in my hair, but by that point I didn’t.. Let me tell you, nothing worked. Not OTC treatment, not prescription.. I was killing my kids hair trying to get the bugs out, let alone my own because of the chemical bath..
When I told the doctor his prescription treatment didn’t work, he told me to grease my kids heads up with Vaseline.. This isn’t because grease makes it harder for them to get a grip or easier to get the bugs out, but because grease coats their spiracles and they suffocate.
Since then I have found the best treatment to be Lice MD which is liquid silicone, and actually found in many hair care products.. And it works by coating them and suffocating them the same way greasing the hair does. I think it’s safer for our hair than petroleum jelly as well.
I’m glad you finally found what works for your hair.
I never said the bugs couldn’t hold on to hair. I said : “The environment makes it difficult for the Lice to survive.”
If that’s in the book, then that book is riddled with misinformation. Africans have always and continue to use natural oils and unguents in their hair and scalp. Most ancient people did. Indians put Amla oil and coconut oil in their hair and on their scalps. Italians and Sicilians used Olive oil. Middle easterners used blackseed oil. Also, slaves did not put petroleum jelly/grease on their scalps as petroleum wasn’t used in hair dressings until the 1950’s. Before then, hair greases were made from lanolin. Also, whites passed laws barring black women from showing their hair , this is why enslaved black women covered it in headwraps. Sounds like the author didn’t do her research as that book contains a lot of misinformation.
Madam CJ Walker born into slavery is the most known Black Hair Pioneer. Who used Home remedies most likeky passed on from her mom. She used stuff like Vegetable oil & glycerin. And the author can’t figure out what we put in our hair?
Can someone explain how US slaves were using petrolatum jelly when it wasn’t invented until 1872? If this site even checking the “facts” it puts out?
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Chesebrough
They might have used animal fat.
Same my mom used grease on my hair when I was little and all it did was make it limo and greasy I started using oil because of my grandma and it’s shiny not greasy and seals my hair now that I’m natural I use only water conditioner and oil to seal my hair and for shine .
Nubian hairy is not a carrier of pediculus humanus capitis IE:Head lice because of its texture and dog and cats carrier fleas and ticks.
Long before we started using iron comb and petroleum jelly the ancient Nubians groomed they hairy exquisitely and adorn oil’s so we are just retaining some of are culture pass down to one culture to an other.
Sorry, you’re wrong. Nubian Hair can get lice. Its a myth that black people can’t get lice because for so long we didn’t because…we greased our scalp. Lice can’t hold on to the hair strand with a lot of oil in the hair. The number one natural remedy for lice is a whole bunch of oil in the hair. Then you have to pick the lice out of the hair as they struggle to move through the oil. And people don’t carry fleas and ticks, but they can bite people, hence Lyme disease.
It’s no secret. This is something that’s always been said that black or Afro hair whether Relaxed or Natural do not get Lice because of the oils & grease used. The environment makes it difficult for the Lice to survive. Those with drier hair & scalp have to be careful around someone who has Lice.
Actually it is not the oil that keeps lice away. That information is False. If you study lice and what they inhabit, you would find that lice lives mainly in feathers and fur. Our hair texture is not of feather nor of a fur texture so it isnot the oils at all because as you know oils and slip are no stranger to sleeker texture hair, fur and feathers. Afro hair is actually real HAIR and lice don’t grow in hair. Other races have what mimics fur so lice are more prone to gravitate to those textures.
If it is said that black people don’t get lice do to the oil that is put on the hair then why are white people more likely to get lice when their hair is just naturally oily, so would it be safe to say only white people with clean hair got lice?E
I haven’t, in my entire time on this planet, met one black person who has gotten lice. Meanwhile when I was in elementary school Latin and white kids got it.
Google “Tignon laws” . It’s more than just hair care…
While all those points about African traditions are true and many practices were still being practiced during slavery, we are talking about black slavery in America. Those Africans have different cultural reasonings for doing things, though it’s probably because of African traditions. I was taught in a Africa-American studies class that black women also had to cover their hair because it enticed the white male. It was law passed to de-feminized the black woman. So bringing along her African traditions her scarfs were always elaborated, and still had an effect on the white male. So it still kept it’s cultural importance but in a different aspect…..
All points are pretty much valid to a sense however
Well, I grease my hair cuz if I don’t it will dry up & break off! I tie my hair at night so my braids won’t get raggedy!
These traditions don’t just stem from slavery. They come from the continent. North Africans used olive oils to grease their scalps which is why the Greeks started copying them and doing it too. We’ve always used butters and oils and wrapped our hair it just took on a different purpose during slavery.
Wth doed North Africans have to do with North American Black people supposedly from West Africa?
Are you really that uneducated.
We wrap our hair because our ancestors are Hebrews(Israelis) from the tribe of Judah. Hebrew women are suppose to wrap their hair when they pray and worship the Most High. You’re crazy, if you are still calling yourselves African American, Black, or any of those other bywords that they have given to you describe what you are as a people, because they didn’t want you to know you are from the people who God chose to love, yet punished because our ancestors didn’t follow the commandments. Judah is waking up 2019 Judah will roar.
No, they are from us. Central Africa. As all modern man did. A scientific fact. Why do you so badly want to associate with Jews? Why do you hate your blackness?
My mum is very educated when it comes to hair, especially afro textured and she always steered clear of grease because she didn’t want it clogging my scalp, but always kept my hair well oiled and moisturised to keep me from catching other kids fleas lol. She reinforced this in me so much as a child, because she didn’t want my thick hair getting invaded by tiny little parasites that would be difficult to get rid of. It worked, because I’ve never had so much as an egg laid in my hair let alone fleas, haha, and to this day I keep her practice in mind to keep my hair healthy and those fleas away
The story of my blood, my great great great grandmother was Irish, she married an Indian man. They had children one of those children married a half black half Indian man. Pow which made my nanny she had children with an 100% black male. That made my grandmother who had kids with a black male who also had Indian descent. Pow match made in heaven.
I didn’t mean to thumbs down your comment; just new to the site and trying to figure the functions.
People are confused by how I’m mixed with so much, but it’s really quite as simple as you have wrote.
Means nothing, you are an Israeli from the tribe of Judah the so called Indians in your family or from the tribe of Gad. Israel had 12 sons. Indian as well as Black are nothing but bywords place upon us to keep us from waking up, or knowing who we really are
Shut up up with your Jewish black coonery
Thank you!
Sorry, there were still biracial people 100-200 years ago. Most of them melato I must say but still
did you mean mulatto?
I think people are so quick to “teach” others that they go to far with the “teaching”, a lot of people in the black community say their of Native American descent. In all honesty there were still biracial people, all though now only 5% black people actually have Indian some where in their culture. I’m one of them, here’s a picture of my mother, she has similar facials. Yet don’t get it twisted I’m proud to be who ever I am.
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White people often claim Native blood just as often as black people do. I think it’s white people’s way of staking claim on the land. They want more of a connection to America. It’s like saying they “Belong” here and are NOT invaders technically. lol It’s rather silly because every one seems to be romanticizing the Native American thing, when MOST people know that the WHITE man killed like 87% of Natives. They killed so many, how can there be soooo many claims to the blood is beyond me?
Most white people DO however, have some black blood more often than they care to admit.
First of all Africans in slavery days, took some of their beliefs systems and customs with them to the new world. Believe me, when I tell you, that Africans were using hair oils and oil massages for thousands of years before they hit the “New world” on “The Good Ship Jesus” Ok, so we were very intelligent in our motherland, hello.
Second of all you write the article as though African history began at slavery. Sure they did do those things to protect the scalp from insects, however it has been a serious custom in Africa as well to grease the scalp. Many tribes practice different ways to protect their scalp even to this day.
Some of those tribes predate Christianity. Most of the tribes in Africa are like 20,000 years old. The people have been making oils and thick pomades way before, any of our ancestors were forced into the new world. What do you think Africans were doing? Sitting around in Africa, not working, No they were building kingdoms and homes and the whole lot. You have to remember that slavery in Africa was not chattel slavery, most of the slaves were so called criminals of war and thieves who were caught, they weren’t treated like animals like in America. So yes, they bought customs with them from their native land. Hair oils, special hennas and certain types of muds filled with minerals were use on African scalps for thousands of years. It was HOT obviously and the ancients knew how to protect themselves from heat far hotter than what they experienced in the new world.
Why are so many Africans upset by this? I have met many Africans and they are some of the prejudiced people ever especially against Black Americans. It’s confusing to me. Is it hard to understand that many aspects of culture were forgotten suring the middle passage? Black is Black, but culturally we have hardly anything in common.
You are absolutely right about that. We all look the “same” but we’re not the same.
Africans are not like us. We may look similar but we can distinguish ourselves from them. You have to find out what African is. Then find out what you are. Like Ave Monroe was saying we are from Isreal (Jacob). Africans will tell you they never sold their people into slavey. With that being said they, the Africans treat us just like any other culture out here.
what?? Are you talking about DNA or culture or nationality? What are you talking about – Israel? You need to do some studying girlfriend…
Interesting and enlightening. Reading some of these comments from front to back makes me very elated to be who I am. I’m 18 and I would love to date an African. I am elated to be the decendants from a rich culture. This blog touches on so much. I’m going to tell my Mom what I learned and probably show my grandma.
I am African and can tell you that wrapping our heads has very little to do with what you have written- please get your facts right before publishing. In fact, your comments perpetuate the stereotype that wrapping our heads is a negative thing- a disguise of some sort, our way of hiding. NO. In my culture (you will know that we are not all the same, Africa is a continent with 54 countries), women wrap their heads in scarves as a sign of respect at traditional functions (traditional wedding ceremonies, funerals etc). Also more mature women will wrap their heads to show their status as leaders or elders, and to differentiate themselves from the young women. It is usually acceptable for the younger, unmarried women to have their heads uncovered at traditional ceremonies but their hairstyles are often conservative so as not to attract attention to themselves. Women also wrapped their heads when working, to protect their hair from dust, specks, smoke etc and this was important because oil attracts dust. This was mainly in rural settings but the practice exists today, I do it too when working in a dusty environment.
So while you were right about protecting our hair from the elements, you missed the most significant explanation for the practice.
In the blogger’s defense, the post speaks to the historical reference of why slaves covered their hair… not African women.
Uh hello, the people who were forced here from AFRICA were AFRICAN women! So technically the article is talking about AFRICAN women. They were bringing traditions such as head wrapping, greasing, henna, oils to the new world. These were traditions that stuck and also customs that stuck too. They were AFRICAN, as African as you get in the 1500’s. Once they had babies, born on U.S. soil,Africans passed their traditions on to the American Blacks that were born in this country. But make no mistake, hair covering, such as wigs, wraps, oil mixtures, hair tinctures, and hennas were all OVER Africa South, North,East, West, you name it. Brides, and promised women wore head dresses in many African cultures. Hair,head dresses, beads, piercings,etc has always been a big deal with African women, so it makes sense that those traditions were passed down to the African Americans. You act as though our history began in the 1500’s no, the Africans were already doing the head wrapping thing for various reasons. It wasn’t until they were forced to become Christian, changing their look and trying to appear less so called “Savage” the white invaders made sure many of the African traditions and customs were destroyed. Just like in today’s world, you may seem unprofessional if you wear corn rows, because white people are uncomfortable with dreads and cornrows. So black women began pressing their hair after a few hundred years. African Americans are a very young “race” African tribes have been around for much longer.
So you know, many Black Americans that were forced to America were also forced to forget many of their old customs. Perhaps a Black American history lesson is in order for you and the orginal poster. The writer was clearly talking about Black Americans. Black is Black, but we don’t all have cultural ties. Also many Black people during slavery and after were forced to cover their hair. All Black people don’t have the same history, culture, or struggle. It’s the same thing with white people. They don’t all have the culture.
HEBREW WOMEN ARE SUPPOSE TO COVER THEIR HAIR WHEN THEY PRAY TO THE MOST HIGH (WE ARE ISRAELI HEBREWS NOT BLACK)
Bwahahahahaha, get an education please, this is embrassing! It is no wonder African Americans are regarded as ignorant. Which books have you read?
SORRY WRONG! THE WOMEN WHO WERE FORCE HERE FROM AFRICA ARE ISRAELI HEBREWS FROM THE TRIBE OF JUDAH. WE WERE LIVING IN AFRICA BECAUSE WE FLED THERE TO AVOID BEING KILLED BY THE ROMANS, THE MOST HIGH PUT A CURSE ON OUR ANCESTORS BECAUSE THEY DID NOT KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS. “BLACK, AFRICAN AMERICAN, INDIAN, MEXICAN, ETC. ARE ALL BYWORDS GIVEN TO KEEP US FROM KNOWING WHO WE REALLY ARE AS A PEOPLE.
You aren’t doing yourself any favours by writing in all caps, by the way. Whenever I see paragraphs of capital letters I just keep scrolling. It only takes away from your credibility and makes you look psychotic.
lol
I don’t think why they wrapped their heads in Africa and why they wrapped their heads in slavery would amount to the same thing. I’m sure massa didn’t care about differentiating younger and older slaves through head wraps or about paying any respect at any formal setting. Mind you, they didn’t have slave formal wear
This is one of the best posts I’ve read thus far. Thanks for keeping us in hair school.
I don’t mean to be late but I agree with Hi There’s original comment. Y’all should check out my blog post about how Black Americans are NOT the Descendants of Egyptians-
http://jumibearz.weebly.com/jumithinks/black-americans-are-not-the-descendants-of-egyptians
I just find it so sad that Black Americans cling so much to this distortion of Africa for the sake of identity. What really is wrong with being West African/SubSaharan African? Why do Blacks defend Egypt with all their might but not the rest of Africa? Why is every Black person an Egyptologist but don’t even know who Kwame Nkrumah (first African president) is? Africa is a rich CONTINENT. Your WEST AFRICAN history is rich my friends. Stop romanticizing about a history that is not “directly” your own. If you’re gonna be a PanAfricanist and love Africa, then love ALL of it not just Egypt.
If you’re wondering if I’m “African,” yes, I’m Nigerian. It hurts me the most to see the descendant of an Ashanti warrior claim he was a “pharaoh” or to see the descendant of a Yoruba princess scream to the high heavens that she is a “Nubian Queen.” You claimed we were “stripped” from our culture but which “culture” were you really stripped from?
Sorry to diverge from the topic at hand I just didn’t appreciate everyone ganging up on Hi There when she was politically correct.
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@jumoke Unfortunately your story doesn’t go along with the narrative these “conscious” blacks would have you believe.
Because they’re not as conscious as they think. They try so hard to disassociate themselves from the “negative” aspects of Africa but will cling on to the only “positive” image there is of the continent. I found it saddening that one commenter above defended her claim for Egypt because East Africans were nomads so it was a possiblity that she was Egyptian… 1. There are other countries in East Africa besides Egypt 2. Because you might be 2% Egyptian, you’re going to obliterate 70% of your West/Central African ethnicity… Reminds me of Black girls who hold on to the fact that they’re 2% Native American smh And while we are on the topic of hair, y’all should really read the book “Hair Story” and “Hair Matters.” Excellent sources of Black hair history. Did y’all know that before the slave trade, West Africans (can’t speak for all of Africa) prided themselves on their hair? Their hair was a way they identified their ethnicity/tribe, status, wealth, and a myriad of other indicators. Even the local hairdresser had one of the most important roles back then because she was seen as the most trusted individual in the village. Most people believe that if a person had a loc of your hair, then that person could put a hex on you so the local hairdresser had to be very trustworthy.
@Jumoké I have to disagree on something which is she isn’t likely to be Egyptian or Sudanese at all.
The poster’s genes likely came from the people who originally inhabited the area we know as the Sahara Desert. They migrated East, West and South when the area changed from savannah to desert. So they share some of the same genes. This means she is likely to fully originate from West and/or South of the Sahara Desert.
The people who lived there had an advanced civilisation shown on cave paintings i.e. they rode horses with saddles, ploughed crops. The absolute proof is under the sand and for obvious reasons no-one is going to go and dig there. If they could they would as it would make them rich.
Oh and the poster who said that the noses where broken of the Egyptian statues on purpose is talking rubbish. I’ve seen statues and artifacts from the Roman Empire with their noses broken off.
It’s caused by what happens when tomb raiders and other looters steal a country’s treasures and smuggle them across borders.
In various European countries and in Egypt itself, there are actually pictures and statues which clearly show some of the high status people including the pharaohs as Black and servants as White, as well as vice-versa.
I couldn’t agree with you more! Sahara desert has a rich and forgotten history but no one wants to hear that. Everyone just wants to sit around the campfire and hear stories of the Nile like gtfoh! You talk about white folks brainwashing you but you’ve brainwashed yourself to think Egypt was the only advance civilization in Africa and the rest of us were sitting around playing with sticks for thousands of years?? -____- give me a break
i totally agree with you on this. completely different cultures and so much evidence points to the fact that we were in West Africa at the same time as the actual Egyptians were in Egypt. It’s a lot like how most black people believe erroneously that they have “native american” in them, and will claim that they are mixed Native when they can’t even name that supposedly “indian” ancestor. it was a story in my family too. I think that black people are the worst when it comes to history, and that our culture in this day and age actively instructs us to not care to find out the truth. So we’ll cling to any shred of someone else’s identity in the hopes that somehow we’ll make it ours. Sad, sad, indeed.
to the unconvinced:
i actually just did a bit of research, and apparently West Africa was settled by OUR ancestors back to at LEAST as early as 10000 BC. to put that very big number in perspective, that means that since the first pharaoh of egypt didn’t even come around until 3100 BC, some 6000-7000 years LATER, there’s a very big chance we have no genetic link to present day egypt or even egypt of the past. Plus, geographically speaking, our ancestors would have had to have trekked through the Sahara to even get from Egypt to West Africa, and have done that significantly AFTER 3100 BC, when there’s proof that Ghanian civilizations had already been established long before that time (we’re talking MILLENIA prior). Plus, all anyone has to do is look at present day Egyptians and their tumultuous history- and all the various Mediterranean entities that conquered them and thus interbred with them during said history- to be able to tell that our closest ancestor to Egypt was the same ancestor who links ALL of the peoples of the world together. Basically, their lineage and ours are no more shared than ours with Celts or aboriginal Australians.
*slow claps* I. LOVE. THIS! But like I mentioned above, no one wants to hear that smh
@Jumoke @cacey so glad you guys were able to find some information to back up what I was saying. I think its sad that slavery left a lot of black americans with no links to their past, but I think its bizarre that people seem to think that they are entitled to align themselves with any African culture cause at the end of the day its “the mother land” (I hate that term). Africans are soooo different from one another. Even Nigerians have different customs and traditions (Hausa, Yoruba, Igbo). I just think it would be easier, and make more sense, if AA saw themselves primarily as American. Someone said something once which I thought was extremely accurate – “African Americans are more American than they’d like to admit”. I mean, we all know that America was taken over by England, and native Americans were displaced, but you never hear white Americans referring to England as the “mother land” or making statements like “when we were in England…”
Great point. I think the argument for that however, is the fact that immigrants from England left willingly and fought the English for their independence in America. Enslaved people of African descent, on the other hand, were not willingly Americans and were not as invested in the “American” identity as the Patriots were.
Where I live at in Oklahoma, every white person you MEET claims Native American blood. And none of them can name the ancestor and they usually pick the Cherokee yet they don’t know anything about the culture. Lol, white people in the mid West aren’t too different from black people who also like to claim Indian blood. I have heard white people call themselves, Cherokee, even though they have the whitest skin imaginable with pale blue eyes and blonde hair. I have no idea why so many people outside of the Native American cultures romanticize Native Americaness. I call it Pocahontas syndrome.I notice more white women claim Native blood than do men. I don’t see many white people on the North East claim to be Native American though?Everyday I have to hear a white person say they are “Native American” and not really white, or that they are a quarter Native, hahaha EVEN though they can’t prove it at all.
I guess it’s the whole warrior thing? Black people who claim Native blood never stop to think that they TOO come from Warriors and Queens as well.
Yeah, I mean look, I don’t think any less or more of a person because of where they come from. My Grandma and me got through going over family pictures from 10 to 11:40 am something in between that and it all started with my Grandma showing me a picture of my Grandpa’s sister, the oldest one, who is mixed with indian(native). We were talking about her children and great grandchildren. She had long natural hair. So did my auntie rose but her hair came off because of wigs which is what my Grandma said. We were looking at pictures from my grandpa’s side and they are still alive. Except my great auntie. What my grandma can’t make sense of is that they have alot of great grandchildren and children of my great auntie and they can’t find out who their great great grandfather and mother was. One of them were pure indian but I don’t know which type of indian. I’m 18 and I’m thinking about making a organization.
I want to get as much information as I can, search my grandpa’s family tree and go down to the oklahoma reservation to meet my grandpa’s side of the family, you know, the native. My mom has moes on her face and she claims to be of native american descent which I do believe. I have to admit, I did feel a sense of pride in my heart after learning that but I didn’t shy away from my african heritage. I still believe I’m the descendents of that continent. It’s just my grandpa’s side. It’s amazing to think that africans were enroaching for a very long time until colonism and enslavement messed it up. Atleast i have something to fall back on. I came from a culture that was the start of inventions, mathematics, science, warriors, geniues..etc what is there to have aversion for? It’s absurd that this kind of history is avoided.
I totally agree with you. However, I do have a link to both Egypt as well as West Africa. My grandmother was born in Egypt. My grandfather,who was a black American, married my grandmother who was Egyptian black,(LONG STORY)but she was also about 40% Arab as well. So there are people from different African regions who DO marry. I still considered my grandmother BLACK, for she is black as a person can get. However she was almost half Arab as well, and I can’t deny that. However, I am often saddened to see African American relatives on my grandfather’s side of the family claim Native American blood when I know for a fact, there is NONE in our family that can be proven. This pretend Native ancestor is never named at all? I don’t get it?
I meet all kinds of Black people who look different ways, and I don’t always think that it’s WHITE or Native blood that make them look the way they look. I just met a younger lady who was 18 the other day, she had gold eyes, brown kinky hair and an Arab looking nose, full lips and high cheekbones, and we got deep into discussion about African American culture. She was wise for her years.
Well,she told me she didn’t know of any white blood she had in her, and could never find any until she researched. Come to find out she was from New Orleans and she had some great grandfather who was also Arab? How shocking was THAT to find for her? So you can never tell who’s marrying or having sex with who? Come to find out the Arab great grandfather, was not that light complexioned, he was rather tanned.
Apparently, this Arab man had an extra marital affair with her VERY MARRIED great grandmother! Who was African American, she was very dark, and all the sudden her two last children came out very light tan with light brown eyes?! Everyone in this young ladies family kept that secret until her grandfather (HER great grandmother’s ILLIGETIMATE son!) started poking around the family tree and found this extra marital affair scandal out. Well, that explained her bone structure and eyes. She said, well “Now I know why I have a BIG nose” lol I think she’s beautiful and unique, but she was trying to find out why she didn’t have the cute button round nose of a typical American black woman.
So you never can tell. African Americans to me, are at least 5 to 20% European, however some of us aren’t, but we still consider ourselves African American because we know the majority of our blood comes from Africa regardless.
But how an Arab man ended up in New Orleans is beyond me? Not that it’s impossible, but that’s what happened in my friends family. It just goes to show we can’t judge a book by it’s cover.
When people look at me, they think I’m half white, or Hispanic, however I am only a small percentage of Arab myself, due to my grandmother’s blood. I only have a drop of Arabic blood, however, most people who are black American say GIRL you got that “Indian” in you or something? lol The truth is, I’m pretty much ALL black. I also identify as black as well. I mean why wouldn’t I? I very rarely bring up that tiny percentage of Arab blood, because I’m not mixed, my grandmother and her twin sister and brother where almost part Arab. I guess that made my mom a little less than a quarter or something? So that means I’m even less and my kids are EVEN less. My oldest looks PURE Arab, even though there is such a small amount in ME. But she may look that way because her Dad had a WHITE ancestor somewhere? Who knows? But, again can’t judge a book by it’s cover.:)
BYWOODS TO KEEP US IN THE DARK AND FROM KNOWING WHO WE REALLY ARE AND WHERE OUR ANCESTORS CAME FROM: IF YOUR FATHER IS ONE OF THESE BYWORDS: INDIAN, BLACK, AFRICAN AMERICAN THE “N” WORD, MEXICAN, THE LIST GOES ON DON’T FELL LIKE TYPING IT ALL DOWN)THEN YOU ARE AN ISRAELI HEBREW. RESEARCH AND YOU WILL KNOW, ALL THIS MESS ABOUT BEING MIXED WITH THIS THAT AND THE OTHER JUST LEAVES YOU MIXED UP IN THE HEAD SORRY
You’re right Black Americans are not descendants of Egyptians, because they are descendants of Israel. Our ancestors fled to Africa to avoid being killed by the Romans, the Most High cursed us because our ancestors did not follow the commandments. Israel had 12 sons, most of us so called Blacks or African Americans(which or nothing but bywords they gave us to hide who we really are)are from the tribe of Judah. Revelation 2:9 and 3:9 states that those who are in Israel today calling themselves Jews and claiming to be Gods special chosen people are liars. Deuteronomy 28 explains who we are. If you are wise then you will know. The 400 year curse will be broken in 2019, then Judah will roar and the other tribes will follow
In my discussion with family lard was used for scalp treatment. That’s deep south hair care…lol.
I’m not sure how this post lead to a discussion of Pan-Africanism but it’s always interesting to read.
I’m inclined to believe that wrapping our hair and oiling our scalps are cultural remembrances that we carried through the Middle Passage. It’s obvious that the use of head wraps, scarves and head gear are important in African cultures and those of African descended people in the new world. How else would you explain the predilection for those elaborate Sunday hats? Don’t they remind you of geles? As for oiling our scabs, in the absence of palm oil and shea butter, our foremothers used what was available to them. I’m guessing that petroleum jelly was preferable to bacon grease or lard.
OMG. Scalps not scabs.
We are not African, Israelis fled to Africa to avoid being killed by the Romans. Wake up Judah.
TEACH!
Perhaps this is why you never hear or heard of any black person having lice!!!!! Even to this day, I have never met a black person who has had lice!
I know off Black people who had lice as children.
The reason they had lice was lack of oil in their hair and no scalp examination as they were being taken care of by White people.
Black mothers, grandmothers, sisters and aunts tend to examine kids hair at least weekly.
Oh and some South Asians also oil their hair and scalps. Which is why their straight looking hair always looks oily.
“Belle”
I am reading all of the posted comments and there is WAY too much division amongst black people…. ALL black people. We really could learn something from one another. What TRULY is the point of constantly trying to 1 up each other for the sake of sounding intelligent? No matter what country and continent you reside we are ALL black, so why are we fighting? This is stupid. After reading your comments…. you ALL have your points…. and yet NONE of you are listening to any of the points being made by one another. There is a lot of negativity here where there should be uplifting words of encouragement. If someone doesn’t know something or is confused what is the harm in just helping them understand WITHOUT the sarcasm and condescending tone? I come to this site because USUALLY it is the one place where black people aren’t ripping each other a new one. smh
I have to say I don’t know if I agree with the notion that slaves grease their heads for that reasons. I am Haitian and we grease our scalp and cover our heads. So I have to disagree with the slave thing. Now I think we cover our heads because we want out hair away when we are doing things and because it keeps us from getting hot. Also because its easy to deal with. Plus we like to do our hair with styles so tying it down keep our styles preserve.
Please how does covering your hair keep you from getting hot. *confused face*
For the same reason one would put their hair in a ponytail before working out. Hair in your face increases heat so one would cover it out of the way to cool off
But Haitians were enslaved also until 1791. So why wouldn’t this apply to them? The histories between the Caribbean and US blacks is intertwined- with slaves often being transported back and forth.
Badly researched article. Black Africans who were never slaves oiled and still oil their scalp probably for the same reason we oil our skin – to combat dryness.
Great article but i do think that greasing the hair has been a common hair practice among Africans( even men ) since pre-slavery times. It’s very common in Africa too so i can’t say that it came about only through slavery.
Love this history discussion! More like this please 🙂
You need to research further back, way before slavery. Black women have hair rituals that have persisted for thousands of years. It would have been helpful for you to dig deeper. Thanks for trying though.
I love this site, but not all black women are African-American I.e. descendantS from the slave era, African women have been oiling their scalps and covering their hair for centuries, even before slavery. Black history did not begin with slavery…
And Egypt isn’t the only area of Africa with ancient history.
White scholars have tried to suppress the fact that those they were enslaving from mainly West Africa came from groups with highly intelligent and skilled craftsmen, artists etc as it suited their purpose to dehumanise us.
Plus West Africans actually traded with the Americas long before the Whites found America themselves.
You are implying that all the ancestors of black people were slaves. Slaves come from Africa. If I want the story of our hair, I will mostly do my research on how our african ancestors were taking care of their hair not just the african slaves of america
I don’t know if it started with slavery… I’m sure the history runs deeper in that because traditionally, women wrap their hair in Ethiopia, and I’m sure the same goes for many other African countries (though we usually use handmade cotton cloths rather than silk). Using oils is also a traditional practice.
As for grease, I heard it’s also because slaves were stripped of the products they normally used, so they had to make due with what they had, but I’m not exactly sure on that part.
I’m actually reading that book (Hair Story by Byrd and Tharps), and it is excellent! This book is so important for all naturals. It’s a history on the evolving perception of (American) blacks over time, with a focus on hair. This book is GREAT!
People always say, “It’s just hair”. It’s never *just* hair. The idea of blacks as *other* is often symbolized through our hair. Hair carries the ethnic heritage of a people. By making it socially unacceptable for black people to wear their natural hair, blacks are symbolically annihilated from society by eliminating any true representation of (diverse) black people.
As an African I highly doubt that this all began during slavery but pre dates Slavery because even in Africa people grease their scalp and I’m quite sure they didnt learn of it post slavery era its something that has been on for the past millenia ad they used to grease with animal fat, Nut oils(eg the baobab frui oil, shea nut oil etc so it could be when they reached the Americas they didn’t have the luxury of African indeginous oils in sight so they resorted to whatwas available(Petroleum)as for covering with Scarfs the article may have a point but it could have been culturally passed from the Continent as well since Africans wore head gears of all decorums of Gold, and beads etc so probably when they were shipped off they only had scarfs to make do with, interesting topic I would love to carry out my own research on the significance of hair greasing in Africa in ancient times.
ITA with this. My first reaction to the slaves putting petroleum jelly on their scalps thing was “um, was vaseline even around then?”. Vaseline was patented in 1872, almost 10 years after slavery (officially)ended in the US. I’m pretty sure black people used (and still use) petroleum jelly and pj-based products because it’s a cheap oily substance. There is plenty of evidence of Africans (and people all over the world, actually – olive oil in the Mediterranean, coconut oil in the pacific islands, etc) using various oils/fatty substances on their hair and body for ages. And let’s be honest, we all have our preferences for a myriad of reasons, but pretty much any oil will work to seal in moisture to the hair. I personally don’t use pj because I don’t like the way it makes my hair look and feel, but it does do the job.
Also, I’m not sure about the origin of tying hair down at night but I’ve seen depictions of many nighttime head coverings from all over… Maybe it’s more common amongst black women now because it tends to be an absolute necessity for us. Ive also noticed that white women (and all women) don’t really style their hair as much as they used to. Like, no pin curls or bouffants etc. The hair is usually just worn down, maybe slightly curled with a flat iron. So there is no need to preserve the style. But black women tend to do it for preserving style AND moisture. Like I said I’m not sure about that one, though.
There was also the Tignon laws, where in New Orleans some of the Caucasian women felt that the black women (specifically the free blacks, although enslaved women were targeted too) were attracting “too much attention” and laws were made to get them to tone down their clothing and cover their hair, to make them “less” appealing. I was shocked when I heard that but unfortunately I can’t say I was surprised, if that makes sense. But as we usually do, the black women found a way to turn lemons into lemonade and adorned their tignons with brooches, etc. lol.
And so the Tignon laws backfired in the Caucasian women’s faces because the blacks were able to make their hair-ties into such elaborate and beautiful designs that they got even more attention. Thanks for sharing this information, i didn’t know about the Tignon laws until you told me about it.
I heard that the slaves wrapped their hair because their hair products were taken away, they couldn’t groom their hair so that is when the gead wraps were worn.
It’s true. Byrd and Tharp discuss the way in which slaves were not allowed time to even groom themselves. We all know that natural black hair thrives from water and good detangling techniques. So they had to improvise by covering their hair.
I was more surprised by the article’s focus on slavery, enslavement is not the sum total of our cultural heritage. We brought a lot of traditions with us from Africa (i.e. braiding, head wrapping).
This is also true. Bryd and Tharp actually discuss some of the traditions of black hair in parts of Africa. For instance, in some cultures, black people never wore afros because it was a sign of low class. People who had the leisure to style their hair did elaborate braiding and threading techniques. Interesting huh? The book referenced in the article actually starts from African, pre-15th century tradition all the way to modern American perception of black hair.
Yup! My grandmother who never traveled outside of Africa and who was also illiterate (so she didnt read abt it in a book) and very cultured greased and wrapped her hair. So did her sisters. Oiling skin and hair have always been a part of how Africans groom.
YES I knew that. It is interesting. The petroleum jelly also suffocates ticks if they got into your scalp, so if you by chance have a tick on you smear on a good amount of Vaseline and then the tick flea what ever can’t breath and it will pull out and go else where. White people did it too. I remember when I’d watch little house on the prairie and the girls would wear their bonnets. I asked my grandma what are the hats for? And that’s when she told me this bit of history. Lol, as a 6 year old I thought that the story would be more epic, but what are you gonna do? I was 6.
I think wrapping our hair is more than just about bugs and things like that. When we were in Egypt we would lay on silk and wrap our hair in silk as well. It’s like you know who you are even after being stripped from our land.
LOOOL wait “we”? we as in…who? we as in black people? “We” were never in Egypt. The idea that ancient egyptians were black in the first place is a highly contested one. No ones been able to agree on it. And most slaves that ended up in the US came primarily from west, maybe southern, Africa anyway. Nobody was “stripped from Egypt. So the likelihood that a black American is descent from Egypt is highly unlikely. So how can you “know who you are” if the practice your’e speaking of was never yours to begin with?
However, kudos to our ancestors for figuring out the grease thing for keeping away insects. Very clever. Its funny how these things get passed down from generation to generation and we never know the real reasons behind it
Yes, heavily contested by white society and scholars who do not want to admit that black people could have possibly been apart of the most advanced civilization in the world at that time.
Thank you!! Ignorance is real
Thank you so much. “We weren’t in Egypt?” Girl bye.
Right! God brought us out of the land of Egypt. Hebrew Israelite. Look it up in the good book.
“we” meaning african americans not black people (there is a difference). black doesnt mean african american. seeing as majority of slaves were taken from west and central africa, then the likelehood is that you (african american) were probably not in egypt. and I dont mean that as an insult, I mean it as a fact. I feel its kind of rude to just attach yourself to a culture randomly just because its in africa.
@ Hi There – please note that there has been a lot of documented evidence about the ancient Egyptians being of African dissent:
Physical Anthropology Evidence (physical attributes of Africans)
Melanin Dosage Test (chemical responsible for color of skin)
Osteological Evidence (known as, “Negroid” or “Negrito” type)
Evidence From Blood Types (Type ‘B’ same as those of Western Africa – prior to crossbreeding)
The Egyptians as They Saw Themselves (how the Egyptians designated themselves as KMT-which means, ‘The Blacks’)
Cultural Unity of Egypt With The Rest of Africa (there was a lot of commonalities in Egypt of Africans-including hair types)
Divine Epithets (a.k.a. ‘Black’ or ‘Negro’ and used to refer to the chief benevolent gods of Egypt)
Evidence From the Bible (….the sons of Ham were Cush and Mizraim (i.e. Egypt)…According to biblical tradition, Ham was the father of the Black race). Also, note that all Semitic tradition (Jewish and Arab) class ancient Egypt with the countries of the Blacks)
Linguistic Unity With Southern and Western Africa (the common language between Egypt and Africa are extremely similar)
Testimony of Classical Greek and Roman Historians (Virtually all of the early Latin eyewitnesses described the ancient Egyptians as black-skinned with woolly hair. Also the Ethiopians considered the Egyptians their colony)
DNA Evidence (you can Google DNATribes – a genomics company that specializes in tracing individuals’ ancestry to certain global populations)
@Hi There -Wow excuse me? Of course Egyptions are African! The COUNTRY of Egypt is in the CONTINENT of Africa. Skin color has nothing to do with one being of African decent. And of course peoples with various shades of dark skin tones originated from Egypt, which again, is in Africa. Such ignorance.
yes I know Egypt is in Africa. i’m from Africa myself. But she insinuated that there is some sort of link with black americans of today and ancient egyptians of which my reply was.. that is unlikely. Even if you are of the view that the ancient egyptians were black (there has been a lot of debate about it), slaves weren’t generally taken from Egypt. so yeah I still dont undertand her point. it sounds nice and poetic but it doesnt make sense
Honey, you need a history lesson. There was more than one slave trade. I for one, have DNA test results that prove my ancestors were primarily East African; so if that’s the case then YES, it is quite probable that a great many black people may have ties to Ancient Kemet (Egypt) as well.
Ancient Egyptians were Black Africans, there have been scientific proof of this. The current Egyptians are Arabs who systematically killed and enslaved black driving them away from North Africa and repopulating with Arabs. We blacks need to reclaim our history and pride because we DO have a wonderful history that pre-dates the coming of the vultures (Arabs & Whites)
I dont need to reclaim my history because as a nigerian my history was never taken from me. And i’m very proud of being a Nigerian and African and of our history (even the bad parts). I’m sure the egyptians (whatever colour) might have a lot to say about their history, but seeing as I am not one that is not my concern. as an american (i’m assuming you’re american) you have your own history. why try and attach yourself to someone elses?
also calling whites/arabs “vultures” is really racist
I don’t care where you’re from, using that “reverse racism” lie is disgusting and it shows that you’re nothing but a troll.
Wait so is Egypt NOT in Africa? Their Race is AFRICAN ethnicity is EGYPTIAN and nationality (if living in america) Is American so they would be considered African-American. Please do some research before you leave these foolish comments. -_-
man oh man I hope that person logged off and went to research or read a book of some kind
where in my comment did I say Egypt wasnt in africa. please copy and paste it in your reply
I am african too and i ask you to go away and read a book. I have never met a nigerian as ignorant as you in real life. That’s the only thing that surprises me. Troll
This reply is directed @Hi There.
I said we need to reclaim our history because the Europeans and the Arabs say that “We do not have a History”, the Black man is inferior, the black does not have a civilization. The main justification for colonisation was “Bringing civilisation to a savage people”. Most recently, the former President of France Nicolas Sarkozy at a meeting in Senegal said and I quote “”The tragedy of Africa is that the African has not fully entered into history … They have never really launched themselves into the future,” “The African peasant only knew the eternal renewal of time, marked by the endless repetition of the same gestures and the same words,” he said. “In this realm of fancy … there is neither room for human endeavour nor the idea of progress.”
I am sorry for my long speech, but we really need to reject the idea that Africans are children who added nothing to civilisation and have no history. It is condescending and demeaning at the very least and it see no reason why it should be accepted.
You are Nigerian and proud, I think you should look objectively at the state of the “Black Man” everywhere and you will not be quick to say “my history does not need reclaiming”.
We might be individually proud, but we NEED our collective pride back
actually…egyptians in america would not be considered african-american. nor would any people from north africa. its sounds weird but the US gov’t has definitions for each “race” and people with north african heritage are defined as white not african-american or black. it’s stupid because they’re from the continent africa, yet aren’t considered african… just another way to divide people.
both the 2000 census and the FBI define north africans (and peoples with that heritage) as white. If you look it up on wikipedia, you’ll find the source links to both of these sites.
also, the commenter “Hi There” never said egypt wasn’t in africa. just that the slaves that were brought from africa to the americas were very unlikely be egyptian.
If its not clear… my comment was directed at “newbie”…
I agree…
But let’s NOT think Egypt was the only “advanced” civilization in Egypt please. Because in all honesty the ancestors of AA came from West and Central Africa, both of which have very rich and diverse cultures (did you know the richest man in history was a king form West Africa called Mansa Musa I,who had so much money and influence he was able to make the gold in Egypt worthless?
OMG!! Thank you for pointing this out! I feel as those people only want to claim Egypt was the only advanced African kingdom. NO! It was not! The whole of Africa had successful and efficient tribes. We just don’t hear of it as much because no one wants to see africa in this light. All they want is the africa that “sold its people” or africa the “3rd world” or “the world’s poorest” blah blah blah
Majority of Black people be it AA, Caribbean (West Indies etc), Latin American are descendents from West Africa, Modern day Ghana and Sierra Leone particularly. Slave trade routes have been documented from that region. Not trying to discount Egyptian Ancestry but Egypt isnt the only country in the continent and remember European colonizers did “split” the continent in order to exploit African bodies, labour and resources.
Gigi2, you took me back to elementary school when you mentioned Mansa Kan Kan Musa – ha. One of the comments reminded me of when Oprah said she traced her roots the Zulu tribe – lol.
Africans really need to do something about properly teaching our history based on facts, not white and Arabic lies. We had so many thriving kingdoms: Ancient Ghana, the Songhai Empire, Timbuktu, Ancient Mali, Ancient Sudan, Nubia, the Kingdoms of the Ashante, Dahomey, Benin – all ruled by black Africans. Even South Africa had thriving African kingdoms before the Dutch came with their troubles The proof is in the artifacts that continue to surface. The proximity of North Africa to the Middle East is the reason for the lighter complected coloring of North Africans. Most of us, me included, tend to think Ethiopians as only having light skin and 3A hair. But there are still the ancient tribes in Ethiopia who are not mixed and look like they can be from any part of Africa. There was a lot of miscegenation in the North due to the numerous invasions, rape, colonization, legitimate marriages, migration, etc. That also came with discrimination and even sometimes enslavement of these full black Africans. Read Slave by Mende Nazer – it still goes on today to some extent.
I’m not trying to be divisive or anything, I love all my African people, but African colonization by the white and Arabic invaders (humming Vasco De Gamma he was no friend of mine) have tried to erase and re-write our history and present us as the weaker race. We have to reclaim our history.
thank you for pointing out one of the points that I made (but seems to be highly ignored). most AA of today would have come from west and central Africa
Clearly you are either trolling or you need to learn your history. Africans or rather dark skinned people have been all over this world. From Asia to Africa to the west, we have been EVERYWHERE. Why do you think they DON’T teach you about African culture? So you can believe everything else they tell you, which isn’t the truth. Why do you think they broke the noses off of 95% of EGYPTIAN statues? Because the features were African. Why do you think they alter the statues to THIS day, replacing them with thinner noses and repainting them with lighter colors to make their skin appear lighter? To make them look LESS African. Mummies have been found with dreads. Who have been known to wear dreads and who is TRYING to wear them now? Why do you think every thing we do they imitate and call it theirs? One of the oldest female skeletons have been found in Africa. Over 3 million years old. The world looked to Egypt probably how the world would look to America nowadays. Please learn about your history and not cheat yourself believing what you see NOW is what it is has always been. I’m done
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“WE were never in Egypt…” then you should learn about your own “real” history and start doing research on it if indeed you are Black. I will help you with a starting point by providing you with a name: “Cheikh Anta Diop”. He was an historian, anthropologist, physicist, and politician who studied the human race’s origins and pre-colonial African culture. Diop published his technique and methodology for a melanin dosage test in scholarly journals. Diop used this technique to determine the melanin content of the Egyptian mummies. Forensic investigators later adopted this technique to determine the “racial identity” of badly burnt accident victims even if critics have argued the technics lacks sufficient evidence. Diop found that even after hundreds of years of intermixing with foreign invaders, the blood type of modern Egyptians is the “same group B as the populations of Western Africa on the Atlantic seaboard and not the A2 group characteristic of the white race prior to any crossbreeding.” It has been scientifically proven that when the great Egyptian era started to decline, Egyptians migrated along the west coast down to South Africa. Proof of their migration has been found at the embouchure of the Congo River and along the west coast line and range from utensils to jewelry and rites and customs. Besides those extra scientific proofs, Egyptians called themselves KMT which means Black and represented themselves with black skin and according to the Bible Egypt is son of Ham whose father is Noah. According again to that same Bible backed by the Quran and the Torah, Noah and his three sons were Black. All the “good gods” in Ancient Egypt were represented Black and the evil ones red.
There are plenty of scientific proofs that demonstrate that Egypt was black for a long period of time. And because it was one of the greatest nation and center of the world in its time it attracted lot of other nations and that is how Black Pharaohs declined and started gradually being replaced by “mixed” ones until the Pharaoh era completely disappeared. But this isn’t the forum where we should discuss about this subject, this is a hair forum and we shall focus on hair. As for hair greasing, I don’t think it started with the slavery. Africans especially women always greased their hair to protect it from the harsh elements and because they understood that “oily hair” was more manageable that “ungreased hair”. From what I learnt, they resorted to grease because that was available. As for the scarf, the author has a point but I know from my own research that covering one’s head has always been part of the African culture and once again the main reason being to protect hair against the harsh sun, dust and elements but also to showcase one’s status within the society. All kind of hair ornaments were used towards that goal. Also women used to wear intricate hairstyles requiring long hours to be accomplished so wearing a scarf was also a way to protect their hair do. but the most interesting thing I learnt during my research is that back in the ancient time, women started to wear scarves to protect themselves from evil spirits; scarves merely being just a symbol of the natural spiritual light ( Aura ) surrounding each human being and that is commonly represented as a white halo surrounding Saints’ heads and angels in Christian drawings. Nowadays, African women still continue to wear scarves not only because it’s a great fashion accessory showcasing their skills and beauty but also because it’s a great way to protect hair from the Harsh African sun and elements.
Shes right. Every african amerivan keeps romantasizing about ancient egypt and all that ish.
Sorry to burst your bubble.
But majority of the slaves were shipped from west african countries like nigeria, ghana, senegal, niger, cameroon, ivory coast, liberia, etc.
Egypt had nothing to do with the slave trade in the americas.
Hi there..get lost and don’t ever come back with this buffoonery.
You need to buy yourself a map. Dont be an idiot.
Yes,egyptians are black. But 95% of AFRICAN AMERICANS are from west africa.
Simply for the fact that its closer to the us than east africa.
Why would u go to a mcdonalds all the way in california when u live in new york and theres a mcdonalds next door?
Yall are acting like each african country is of walking distance. GTFO
Egypt is in Africa.Yes, it’s close to the Middle East, but it is located on the continent of Africa So the idea that there wasn’t or isn’t at this present time, black people there, is retarded. From a geological stand point, there definitely was and are black people in Egypt. The cover up that there are no black people there, came from the all the beautiful stolen art work and statues, etc, in which they knocked off the noses of many to hide the “black features.” You can’t believe everything you hear, do your own research.
No one is saying egypt isnt africa! Yes, egyptians are black! But most african americans are of west african descent. The white americans went ro west africa because it was much closer than east africa. You guys are forgetting that Africa is a huge continenent! They didnt have planes to get from place to place. Why would anyone go through the trouble of going from america all the way to east africa when they could just go to west africa. Its like you living in newyork but you buy a plane ticket just to go to mcdonalds in california. Im actually a nigerian so im pretty sure i would know what im talking about.
thank you soooo much ada! I’m not sure why people think they can just pick a random country on a map and align their history with it. i found the ladies comment strange beacuse the only people i’ve ever heard refer to themselves as egyptians…are egyptians. I was also quite sure of the fact that the slave trade wasnt really focused on that part of Africa. so why would an african american feel like they were “stripped from their land” when that probably was never their land to begin with. the whole thing is very romanticised
So it would be completely unlikely that individuals from Egypt would migrate to other parts of the continent such as west and South Africa? Let me ask it this way, American families that have roots in the south always remain in the south or do they move to different states in the country? Yes, it has been documented that most of the slaves were taken from west Africa, but don’t make the mistake of thinking that some Egyptians were incapable of migrating to other parts of Africa like west Africa where as you say most of the slaves were taken and placed in America. Think about it.
@Hi There. You were making a valid point but you sort of came off as being derisive with your first post and maybe that’s what got people so riled that they are dismissing your explanation. But it certainly has started a good discussion on our history 😉
@Ms.Gee lol yes I can see that now. Perhaps I should have toned it down with the sarcasm. I just don’t like it when people use emotive language to create a false picture. But yes your’e right, what a discussion it has started
really? Just look at the Egyptian art, pyramids, gods, statues, etc… “we” were Egyptians! THEY want us to forget that WE were here first. I think it eats at them that they cannot deny that fact. I’m still upset about the “accidental” fire that burned down the largest library know to men: the one in Alexandria. Just so WE wouldn’t learn where we come from. People wake up.
Really some people in here need to learn their own History and I mean H…istory (with a giant H ) before coming on a hair forum to showcase their ignorance about their own origin. Ancient Egypt was Black. Even if future slaves weren’t caught in Egypt, we still find a lot of descendants of Black Egypt along the Atlantic Ocean coast side from Egypt to South Africa. Why? because they migrated. Back in time, the Sahara desert didn’t exist the way it is nowadays, it was a luxurious forest just like you find in most parts of Africa. Ancient Egyptians had not only mastered how to navigate the Ocean along the coast line but they could also travel inland. Some of their descendants can be identified along the coastline because they kept some of their customs, utensils, jewelry, dress code,… and those very same descendants are ancestors to slaves that were brought here in America. So even if most African Americans are from West African descent, they can still retrace their origin back to Egypt. Black History in the pyramids and lot of mummies and statues were destroyed simply because they obviously portrayed what most people considered Black traits : curly cottony hair, braided or plaited hair, thick lips, large nose ( Even if African vary widely in skin color, facial shape, hair type, height, and a number of additional factors, just like other human populations ).And they were destroyed because White people couldn’t stand the fact that they were once slaves to the very same people they were now enslaving. They had to erase the evidence and rewrite the story to brainwash us and keep us psychologically weak because it is a well scientifically proven fact that Black people are physically and mentally stronger than any other race in the world. Egypt was ruled by Nubians Pharaohs for more than a 100 years and Nubians are well known to be dark skin with intricate braided hairstyles. And yes, Egypt was part of the slave trade as well just like Ethiopia and Somalia. Just like there was a “west Coast slave trade” , an “East coast slave trade” existed. In the East coast slave trade, White people were traded just like Black people but of course one will never learn that in school. Most of the East Slave trade were directed toward Europe especially The British Islands, France, Italy, Middle East and India and was mostly dominated by the Arab. So for all those people who still believe that African Americans can’t be from Egyptian descent, I urge them to RESEARCH their BLACK HISTORY AND ORIGIN better and learn the Real truth about their people instead of coming here and showcase their ignorance. Please stop fooling yourself with Modern Day History instead focus about hair talk when you come in this forum.
Africa is a country of blacks. And some of the black slaves do came from Egypt but that don’tb necessary mean they are African Americans
YES, let’s not forget Napoleon had his army aim at the Sphinx’s NOSE’S for a reason. There was a little history he wanted no one to remember, especially since he was being bested by a black soldier himself…
Most slaves were PHYSICALLY taken from West Africa, but the North African trade routes existed for centuries before the slave trade. The trade routes covered most of northern Africa, including Egypt and Sudan, and centered around Mali. When people trade, it’s not just goods but also DNA and ideas. So you can not say a person taken from West Africa has no ties at all to East Africa, especially considering the nomadic trading cultures of that time.
Uh, Hi you to do more research. Africans were taken from many places in Africa, including the interior of the continent to the west where they were sold. They not only came from the West, as is popularly believed. Also, it is not highly unlikely that some Blacks may share DNA with Egyptians.
I’m sorry you received so much hate and misinformation Hi There. I’m Nigerian too and it annoys me with a passion when Black Americans swear they were taken from Egypt like school didn’t teach you about the TransAtlantic Slave Trade smh and I get what you mean. I said it on my blog that ancient Egyptians weren’t “African” back then because the term “Africa” didn’t exist yet! Of course it’s an African country today (no duh) but not all Egyptians share the same ethnicity. It’s like saying ancient Native American Indians were Americans before America existed. Many modern day Egyptians (as well as ancient ones) have a Greek, “Negroid,” and/or Arabic background. People forget that Egypt was a point of interest between Africa, Europe, and the Arabian Peninsula.
Black people were not taken from Ancient Egypt. Ancient Egypt existed long before the Slave Trade. And if y’all wanna hit me with that “all Black people came from Egypt,” no they did not. The earliest human remains were found in East Africa (somewhere near Ethiopia) so let that one go.
http://jumibearz.weebly.com/jumithinks/black-americans-are-not-the-descendants-of-egyptians
Look at King Tut’s mother and TELL ME that we weren’t black. I was on a Micheal Jackson video once and the top comment there was that “King Tut was actually white”. Really. Really???? As though his mother wasn’t one of the darkest women I’ve ever seen. As though Egyptians weren’t known to pick their wives from all the darkest women in Africa (including the West and South).
Claiming Egypt as “white” is the same as me claiming Catholicism because of 2 black popes 5 centuries ago. It’s just not realistic.
Highly unlike the Egyptian were white, so yes the culture would have been black. White originated in Europe not Africa
I’d just like to say that, that last line in your response might have changed my life…”It’s like you know who you are even after being stripped from your land”
That’s so true and so beautiful.
I remember this little girl I used to play with thought I had lice (it was dandruff and wash day for me) and I told my mom who then looked at me crazy. Later in life I realized that it was highly unlikely to get lice in my hair unlike my straighter hair friends because of the oil in my friend. Also, since I didn’t wash my hair every day wish lead to product buildup (nothing serious) bugs wouldn’t want to be in my hair because it would be hard for them to move around. Our ancestors were no dummies that’s for sure!
Idk but history books and slave records show that most slaves in the United States can trace their lineage back to mostly West African countries and some Central African areas. (popular areas Bight of Benin(Nigeria),Bight of Biafra(Nigeria),Cameroon, N.Angola,Ivory Coast, Ghana..lesser percentages would be from Senegal,Gambia, Sierra Leone.
Its because all those people are hebrews(black people)…google it