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Black Girl With Long Hair
Many black woman fans of The Real are still confused about why Tamar Braxton was fired from the show. Rumors have swirled blaming everything from alleged diva behavior, to co-star Loni Love. But a shocking Daily Mail report disturbingly suggests that, under The Real’s executive producer Rachel Miskowiec, Tamar was axed because of her use of African American Vernacular English.
“‘The focus group research showed that most educated and working women did not identify with Tamar’s show vernacular and her use of words known to be popular among drag queens and some gay men – phrases like “get your life,” “where they do that at,” “have several seats.”
‘It was even said she seemed more suited to be a judge on RuPaul’s Drag Race on Logo instead of a talk show host on The Real,’ revealed the source.
‘The research went on to say that most educated and working women found her to be ‘ghetto’ and that her aggressive eye-rolling, neck-rolling and the smacking of her mouth were indicative of ‘stereotypical behavior that African American women have worked years to overcome,” the source continued.”
“That African American women have worked years to overcome?!” What in the entire f*ck?! I have not, to date, met a black woman who is seeking to “overcome” a sharp side eye, or well-placed mouth smack when the situation called for it. To associate these behaviors with crassness and lack of education reveals more about The Real than it does about Tamar. Is Tamar super extra? Sure. But to equate her behavior with ‘ghettoness’ reveals a fundamental misunderstanding of the diversity of black culture and expression (news flash: NOT EVERYTHING BLACK IS GHETTO!) and the sad reality that, in too many instances, people who are NOT black get to determine what is appropriate and inappropriate behavior for people who ARE.
The report also alleges that Tamar had frequent outbursts on set, including in front of show sponsors, and was difficult to work with.
However a friend of Tamar’s hopped on Twitter to dispute that;
We discussed this at a BGLH writers meeting, and some said they could understand why Tamar was fired given her sometimes uncooperative attitude on set, and occasional shading of co-hosts. However, one writer attended a taping of The Real (which goes for 3 hours) and said that, from her perspective, Tamar was warm and genuine and the host she connected with most.
There is speculation that, since being renewed for 2 additional seasons, The Real is trying to reach a whiter audience, and there are rumors that white extras are paid to fill seats at tapings.
Whatever issues The Real may have had with Tamar behind the scenes, blaming her unique expression of blackness as part of the reason for her firing is beyond disgusting and foul.
What are your thoughts ladies?
43 Responses
“LOL I don’t know what you consider hood but yeah sure have at it. You were the one who brought up my job, and I responded to it.”–Seeing that my initial comment about your job status was to someone else and not you, cool.
” If you are unaware that some jobs depend heavily on building community relationships with people then I will do my own assuming that you are oblivious.”–Thanks for the confirmation on the hood job status. I’m no longer oblivious.
“If you think not speaking the way most people around you speak can never be a professional detriment then I will also assume you have never worked for a non-profit, civil rights, or political organization.”–A hood job can also be based on the surrounding environment too darling. The organization becomes irrelevant.
” I have a black friend from Seattle who is dealing with the”talking white” mess in trying to grow her non-profit. Talking white accusations are not exclusive made by or directed at black people. I have friends who are not black working as community advocates who also get it. Someone told me the other day the only difference between a Yankee and a damn Yankee is that damn Yankees don’t go home. I live in a largely closed society where you have to work hard to gain acceptance some people never get. Your thing is you believe the hype that over values speaking a certain way to be professionally successful. I know many highly successful filthy rich white business people and politicians who talk the way I described in my previous post with NO negative effect on their jobs. I hear white people saying he don’t and ain’t and finna all the damn time.”–I see that you don’t know the difference between talking “black” vs. regional venaculars. No wonder people are responding to your comment the way they are.
“Like I said in another post, white people accuse me of talking white. Never once have I heard them say the way they talk cost them a promotion. Why is it other groups do not concern themselves with speech patterns so much while many black people think it’s a deal breaker? “–Lol! Well of course a white person talking black won’t cost them a promotion, like duh! See, a white person saying that you talk “white” is not a deal breaker for you, while a black person saying the same thing to you is a deal breaker for them. It’s no surprise that you think blacks are the only group that’s concern with people’s speech patterns. Simply hilarious!
“I know exactly why but whatever.”–I too know exactly why a white person saying you talk white is not a deal breaker for you, but whatever.
As said in my first post I think all speech patterns are environment based unless you are someone who purposely tries to change the way you speak. It’s not race. I don’t believe in AA vernacular English. oh well. I also don’t believe there is any such thing as “talking white”. These are things I said that are said to me and coming from anyone equally irks me. However, the problem is more some people refusing to talk to me because of it, and I work for an organization. Isn’t saying regional vernacular English a complete contradiction to saying aa vernacular English? If the way people speak can be supposedly based on race alone then we should all speak the same way no matter where we live. In my neighborhood growing up the white people next door talked the same way as the Asian people across the street who spoke like the black people down the block. The only difference was if you were a transplant and still nobody cared. Not every place has the talking black white mindset. I never heard people accuse anyone of talking white or black until I went to visit other parts of the US. The US is a very large place. I would never tell a non black person he “talked black”. Pretty sure I told you I know people who are not black who get professional flack for how they speak. Also I spoke specifically of immigrants. I said I know rich white people who talk exactly as other people saying they get discriminated against for in jobs. So I would think people would realize it’s a deeper issue of haves wanting to stay in power and keep out the have nots with speech as an excuse.. Yet people want to mistreat people like my friend who is black and trying to do something positive for everyone because of how she talks. As for people’s reaction because I’m black and complained about people including black people saying I talk white and in turn refusing to talk to me, so what. It’s not the first time people were mad. Won’t be the last time.
–“As said in my first post I think all speech patterns are environment based unless you are someone who purposely tries to change the way you speak”–No you did not. You might want to reread your first post again.
–” I don’t believe in AA vernacular English. oh well. I also don’t believe there is any such thing as “talking white”. These are things I said that are said to me and coming from anyone equally irks me. However, the problem is more some people refusing to talk to me because of it, and I work for an organization. Isn’t saying regional vernacular English a complete contradiction to saying aa vernacular English? If the way people speak can be supposedly based on race alone then we should all speak the same way no matter where we live. In my neighborhood growing up the white people next door talked the same way as the Asian people across the street who spoke like the black people down the block. The only difference was if you were a transplant and still nobody cared. Not every place has the talking black white mindset. I never heard people accuse anyone of talking white or black until I went to visit other parts of the US. The US is a very large place. I would never tell a non black person he “talked black”. Pretty sure I told you I know people who are not black who get professional flack for how they speak. Also I spoke specifically of immigrants. –None of this matters to me.
–“I said I know rich white people who talk exactly as other people saying they get discriminated against for in jobs.”–Actually you said the complete opposite. Unless there’s a typo on your end, this is what you actually stated:
“I know many highly successful filthy rich white business people and politicians who talk the way I described in my previous post with NO negative effect on their jobs. I hear white people saying he don’t and ain’t and finna all the damn time. Like I said in another post, white people accuse me of talking white. Never once have I heard them say the way they talk cost them a promotion.”
So again, you might want to reread what you wrote.
–“So I would think people would realize it’s a deeper issue of haves wanting to stay in power and keep out the have nots with speech as an excuse.. Yet people want to mistreat people like my friend who is black and trying to do something positive for everyone because of how she talks. As for people’s reaction because I’m black and complained about people including black people saying I talk white and in turn refusing to talk to me, so what. It’s not the first time people were mad. Won’t be the last time.”–You finally got one part right. The rest is an emotional plea, which is irrelevant to what I wrote to you.
Yes you are right. I wrote in response to another commenter. It was before I responded to your first comment so I thought you knew. My mistake. So you know. I don’t believe in AA Vernacular English. I read the BGLH article. I saw it said AAVE, and I omitted it on purpose. I know plenty of people who are not black who speak exactly how so called AAVE is described so I think associating it or any other manner of speaking with a race is bs. In fact I have long made it clear many times in articles on this forum how I don’t endorse AA as a racial term PERIOD. Another reason it was omitted. I don’t assume you know my commenting history as you assume I’m “confused” because I don’t drink your flavor of Kool Aid and you assume to know all about what affects my job performance.
The parts you highlighted about rich white people are the same. The “they” refers the the subject it immediately follows which is “other people”. LOL I made an emotional “plea” yet I don’t recall ever asking for anything including for people to change. I have no expectation talking white black good hair bad hair red bone dark skin mentality ever going away.
This topic actually is similar to that article about issues with names which again few rich white powerful people I know care about when naming their kids. My family has five plus generations with lots of what would be considered unusual names. Maybe you could do me a favor. Would you mind telling everyone for me all about the effects on their job performances since you have special Miss Cleo Dionne Warwick powers that give you knowledge of people’s personal situations despite not knowing them and them not having told you? I broke up my comments to make the quoting easier for you. HTH
“Yes you are right. I wrote in response to another commenter. It was before I responded to your first comment so I thought you knew. My mistake. So you know. I don’t believe in AA Vernacular English. I read the BGLH article. I saw it said AAVE, and I omitted it on purpose. I know plenty of people who are not black who speak exactly how so called AAVE is described so I think associating it or any other manner of speaking with a race is bs. In fact I have long made it clear many times in articles on this forum how I don’t endorse AA as a racial term PERIOD. Another reason it was omitted.”–The fact that you still don’t know or can’t comprehend what exactly AAVE is –“I don’t endorse AA as a racial term PERIOD”–is why you’re still completely lost on this subject matter.
“I don’t assume you know my commenting history as you assume I’m “confused” because I don’t drink your flavor of Kool Aid and you assume to know all about what affects my job performance.”–Lol, not only do you not drink my “flavor of Kool Aid”, I’m positive that you don’t even know what it is. There’s no assumption on my end about that.
“The parts you highlighted about rich white people are the same. The “they” refers the the subject it immediately follows which is “other people”. LOL I made an emotional “plea” yet I don’t recall ever asking for anything including for people to change. I have no expectation talking white black good hair bad hair red bone dark skin mentality ever going away.This topic actually is similar to that article about issues with names which again few rich white powerful people I know care about when naming their kids. My family has five plus generations with lots of what would be considered unusual names.”–Sweetheart, please look up what an emotional plea is. You are clueless about this too.
“Maybe you could do me a favor. Would you mind telling everyone for me all about the effects on their job performances since you have special Miss Cleo Dionne Warwick powers that give you knowledge of people’s personal situations despite not knowing them and them not having told you?”– Tell you what, since you can not afford my services, this is the favor I’ll do for you. I’ll give you one more chance to come back with something relevant to what I wrote when you first responded to me, because 99% of your last two post, is IRRELEVANT to the subject matter at hand. I can clearly see that you lack some basic knowledge of American culture social norms (hence as to why people reacted the way they did to your comment), so I was being patient, but the next long winded, repetative, overly emotionally irrelevant response you send me will get you clowned.
“I broke up my comments to make the quoting easier for you. HTH”–I appreciate you doing that, if you only you could break up the nonsense in your head to come back with a relevant response, that would be even better. HTHT.
Ok, “an urgent or emotional request for something. The boy’s parents have made an emotional plea for him to come home.” This is N/A.
“Appeals to emotion are intended to draw visceral feelings from the acquirer of the information. And in turn, the acquirer of the information is intended to be convinced that the statements that were presented in the fallacious argument are true.” N/A. My argument that speaking differently from the majority around you can affect your job is true.
LOL I’ve been talking all along of a cultural norm within the rural South. People from the rural South (an environment) generally speak a certain way whatever their race. You talk of AAVE vs Regional VE but you can’t connect the dots that many American blacks have recent generations with Southern heritage. Basic US History 101: Between 1910-1970 there was a mass exodus of millions of blacks from the RURAL SOUTH. Because of segregation they had to live in concentrated areas of their new cities. Who doesn’t know this? Common Sense 101: If People from anywhere immigrate and move to an environment where most people are from where they are from the speech norm will be more similar to the place they left. If a black southern family moved to where there were few with southern heritage over generations the speech would change. That’s the case for my family. My own opinion is the speech pattern is rural Southern English which is why I pointed out pretty much everyone around me currently white or black or whatever speaks it. If you feel the need to clown, join the circus.
Thanks for the spelling correction. I have always been sloppy with spelling. The thing is like I said I don’t go around correcting people because I just don’t care. As I said you don’t know me or my job so your point about how it affects me on the job is mere speculation. my paycheck depends on getting people to speak to me in a place where I am treated as an outsider just for how I speak. Hence job performance issue. As for the second language I was giving another example of about some people being hostile based on the way people speak. Do you have a foreign accent? Plenty of people who do find that it impacts them professionally.
–“As I said you don’t know me or my job so your point about how it affects me on the job is mere speculation. my paycheck depends on getting people to speak to me in a place where I am treated as an outsider just for how I speak. Hence job performance issue.”–So I can speculate that you work for a hood job. Got it!
–” As for the second language I was giving another example of about some people being hostile based on the way people speak. Do you have a foreign accent? Plenty of people who do find that it impacts them professionally.”– This is what you gave as an example of being billingual–
“I am also bilingual and can tell you in some places in the US speaking a language other than English in public can cause some people i.e. complete strangers to go off on you even though you are not talking to or about them. I guess that’s teasing too.–
Not one thing in your previous quote mentioned anything about accent, job or your job performance on this matter, which is what I was speaking on.
Keep trying though.
LOL I don’t know what you consider hood but yeah sure have at it. You were the one who brought up my job, and I responded to it. If you are unaware that some jobs depend heavily on building community relationships with people then I will do my own assuming that you are oblivious. If you think not speaking the way most people around you speak can never be a professional detriment then I will also assume you have never worked for a non-profit, civil rights, or political organization. I have a black friend from Seattle who is dealing with the”talking white” mess in trying to grow her non-profit. Talking white accusations are not exclusive made by or directed at black people. I have friends who are not black working as community advocates who also get it. Someone told me the other day the only difference between a Yankee and a damn Yankee is that damn Yankees don’t go home. I live in a largely closed society where you have to work hard to gain acceptance some people never get. Your thing is you believe the hype that over values speaking a certain way to be professionally successful. I know many highly successful filthy rich white business people and politicians who talk the way I described in my previous post with NO negative effect on their jobs. I hear white people saying he don’t and ain’t and finna all the damn time. Like I said in another post, white people accuse me of talking white. Never once have I heard them say the way they talk cost them a promotion. Why is it other groups do not concern themselves with speech patterns so much while many black people think it’s a deal breaker? I know exactly why but whatever.
Acting black and black vernacular is only cool when white people do it, don’t cha know
I understood the article to say that she was using a lot of “gay” vernacular words; not black.
She got canned because nobody wants to hear the nonintellectual vocabulary that values style over substance.
It’s obvious to me that Tamar is playing a character. Yes she’s extra but not so over the top on BFV or T&V. IMO she goes overboard The Real because they want her to. Why “fire” someone without a warning? I’m quite sure if they told her to tone it down she would have. I mean did I watch DWTS when she was on? That’s a prime example of her toned down.
To those Obama critics who think he hasn’t done enough for Blacks, let this be a lesson in how being Black in a national spot light is a very slippery slope.
Lol, Its called a DVR. Who watches tv on a regular schedule in 2016. Working people watch daytime tv too.. DVR it lady, lol
Tamar is ANNOYING. Point. Blank. Period. The end.
This is the same wench that mocked blue ivy’s hair and her blackness. she’s getting 0 sympathy from me. Girl bye
exactly, she lost me on the episode she said she didn’t like her hair and wanted tamera’s. she isn’t “too black” she’s just ignorant to the point of making viewers like myself uncomfortable.
I won’t be watching “The Real” anymore. When I read the part about her being “too ghetto” and “African American women have worked decades to overcome”, I knew I was done with it. I’m not the biggest fan of Tamar, but I won’t support a talk show that where producers use coded language. They want to make the show whiter and that’s fine, but the ratings for this show will be on a steady decline. They most likely won’t make it to a fourth season.
This may seem an odd thing to stand out but what stood out to me was the focus group of educated and working women didnt like her. Why are they the focus group? 1) Working….. for all purposes mostly includes jobs from the hours of 9-5 or if you want to go a wider spectrum 6am to 6pm , these people wouldnt be watching the real anyway because they are….working..so Im confused and 2) im not really sure what education has to do with this, while their findings might have shown that the people who listed a higher education didnt like her but what does that have to do with anything considering these are the main people who are number 1….working… so again why are these the focus groups. It seems they needs to talk to the diaper and household products people to figure out who are their REAL targets for daytime tv because it sure ISNT working educated or not, people who are home during the day watching the real (for the most part, i recognize there are always some concessions never all of anything)
1. I second this point. I never thought about the focus group dynamics in relation to the show and the time.Good point.
2. Education is brought into it because the association with ghetto and blackness is being uneducated. Many people think that black people period, and more so black people who particularly speak African American Venacular English are uneducated as a result of where they come from and them being black.
I agree although every job I have had the employees are free to watch tv during work hours as long as it doesn’t interfere with getting your work done. Most people listen rather than actually watch. I watch Judge Mathis often on the job. I enjoy his show. Mostly I keep it on cable news programs. But I don’t think think being able to watch tv at work the norm unless it’s the break room.
I don’t speak venacular English. I was not brought up around it. I say he doesn’t not he don’t. I say isn’t rather than ain’t. Is it a big deal? I think not However, when I have been around people who accuse me of “talking white” or putting on to act like I’m better than them. No. It has nothing to do with you. I just find it ironic to say Tamar is being dragged for speaking venacular when black people dragged black people who don’t all the time. I’m not Bill Cosby telling people how they should speak so why are people trying to run my mouth.
As for Tamar, not a regular viewer and never much of a fan because I have seen her be unnecessarily rude. I watched exactly one episode of BFV where her mom slapped her and never watched again. I had had enough of Tamar. A few times on the talk show I have had the feeling she was deliverately snarky trying to embarrass the cohosts especially Tamara. But they call her out like not knowing India was in Asia and she’s pissed. She’s intelligent but I think her poor communication skills hurt her. I suspect she may act over the top sometimes as part of an armor. I’m not saying all the other ladies were angels but to me for Tamar to only talk about how she was backstabbed and not own or take any responsibility for her stank attitude speaks volumes. She should take it as a life lesson.
I absolutely hate when Black people complain about other Black people having teased them for “talking white”. It’s really annoying and a tactic to used to derail things. As you said, it really doesn’t matter what particular vernacular people use. As long as the person is able to get his/her point across, it makes no difference.
Therefore, I don’t understand why you chose to include that tidbit, about how you speak versus how you perceive others to speak. It’s divisive and obviously the result of respectability politics.
” It’s divisive and obviously the result of respectability politics.”–Precisely!!!
We already know there are black people who tease other black people in that way, but speaking properly will not affect your job in a negative way whatsoever. So she could have kept that pity party to herself. I was one of those people that got teased as well, never affected me in my job performance one bit.
In the case of Tamar, from what it sounds like to me, they’re trying to find a sustainable audience. All the host were over the top, and the subject matters were banal. From the few times I’ve caught it, I didn’t know what they were trying to do, except be–as they had metion in the initial launch–a younger version of the view. The problem with that was the fact that they all were exactly the same. There’s was no real difference in their personality except for Tamera.
I guess their cleaning house and wanting to broaden their fan base and the blackest one, aka Tamar, had to go. I feel bad for her, because to me her behavior seemed like an act. Like she was on 24/7 and for some people it can be too much, but the show itself wasn’t highbrow anyway so she fit in perfectly. They messed up, because from reading the direction their trying to go in, with the exception of Tamera–all the other host are too black too.
you don’t know me or what I do for a living so how do you know what has or hasn’t adversely affected me on my job. The majority of my job is every day going out talking to new and different people from all walks of life. I’m talking about open hostility that is often directed at me and specifically told to me it’s because I supposedly talk white. I am also bilingual and can tell you in some places in the US speaking a language other than English in public can cause some people i.e. complete strangers to go off on you even though you are not talking to or about them. I guess that’s teasing too. Smh
“you don’t know me or what I do for a living so how do you know what has or hasn’t adversely affected me on my job.”–Unless you work for a hood job where speaking properly or “white” is unacceptable or frowned upon, I can’t see how this would have a negative effect on your job performance. Now how it effects you personally that’s another story.
“The majority of my job is every day going out talking to new and different people from all walks of life. I’m talking about open hostility that is often directed at me and specifically told to me it’s because I supposedly talk white. “–See 1st point.
” I am also bilingual and can tell you in some places in the US speaking a language other than English in public can cause some people i.e. complete strangers to go off on you even though you are not talking to or about them. I guess that’s teasing too. Smh”–I speak a foreign language as well. Never affected my job performance, which is what I’m speakin on.
I brought it up to show the contradiction in people taking offense to critques about how they talk when some of those same people complain about how other people talk. This is not the only article I have read about this situation. I said I have been around people who took issue with me not speaking in venacular and I wasn’t talking strictly about black people. where I currently live people say he don’t and ain’t regardless of race. I don’t care but they do. If it’s not a big deal then why do they bring it up to me so much that I speak proper English. I’m not talking about something that happened long ago when I was child. This now and with grown people. I have also had Asian and mestizo tell me I talk white. I have also had white people tell me I talk white because they said my grammar is better than theirs. The difference with the black people who say this to me is they tend to get pissed and accuse me of talking a certain way to act like I’m better than they are. Especially old black people. I don’t get why me speaking the way AI alway have is an insult. The fact that you would describe their animosity as “teasing” irks me. If it bothers you that I bring it up it then I ask does it equally bother you when people bring up to someone that they supposedly talk white? If that not divisive? We agree it shouldn’t matter so why does it. The way someone talks in more about environment than race. It doesn’t mean someone is not intelligent. Like I said I think Tamar is intelligent.
I really don’t believe you and no it doesn’t matter. You seem to believe that because you speak using standard English, you are better. Just reading these couple of comments I can tell it is a point of pride for you. You mention that you weren’t brought up around that. Around what, exactly?
It’s certainly not an insult to anyone at all. Obviously, the way someone speaks doesn’t equal intelligence. However, that is the underlying message of your statement. And not to be rude, but your grammar isn’t exactly perfect, or even close to it.
It wasn’t rude and my grammar is not perfect. I brought it up on this conversation but I never mention this when I am out talking to people mostly as part of my job. So I don’t get why people and not just blacks keep bringing it up. I refuse to call it AA vernacular because as I said most people where I live talk this way so I’m not sure why it gets labeled like that. I know people of many professions even doctors who use incorrect grammar. So what. By brought up around it, I mean no one in the neighborhoods, schools, churches etc I grew up in spoke any differently than I do. That includes the black people who lived there. I don’t turn it on and off. It’s the way I talk. I don’t think about it. Automatic. Yet it always seem to become portrayed as on purpose to have some “hidden underlying meaning.” People believe what they want to believe anyway. Shrug oh well.
she has EVERY right to complain about it. let’s not act like it doesn’t happen. there are black people that bash other black people for ‘talking white’ or ‘not sounding black enough’ and it is a very STUPID and IGNORANT thing to do because 1. proper english is not only spoken by white people and 2. only african americans (and those that try to copy) use AAVE.There are different types of black people around the world so ‘not sounding black enough’ is a foolish sentence.
Your entire comment is useless. Obviously, Black people are not monolithic. Not sure where I said only white people standard English? Also, there is no such thing as African American vernacular English/Ebonics. Vernacular is mostly regional. Also, not sure when I said anything about not sounding Black enough? It seems as if you have just made up things through your own perception.
I’m so glad you said that. I gave examples of how I speak versus how other people I know speak. It was a comparison and not every comparison is a critique. I say bathroom where when I went to UK they said Liu. Whatever. Yet that didn’t stop the conversation from going to “respectabilty politics” although I never said one word about me thinking that any particular way of talking to be superior than another. In fact I said I wasn’t Bill Cosby. I don’t go around correcting people or telling them how to talk. It seems to me that some people are dealing with their own baggage that has nothing to do with me to automatically ASSUME that if someone speaks a certain way that person must have a negative opinion of the way they talk. Just like when some women relaxed hair see I’m natural and for no apparent reason start explaining to me why they have to relax. As if my hair is a statement I look down on relaxing although I really don’t GAF about their hair just like I don’t GAF about how people talk.
People can get butt hurt someone said they talk ghetto but then feel totally justified about remarks about people talking white. Either way it’s an insult.
typical. whenever the example shows we black people discriminate against our own, we’re “derailing” the conversation…unless its about white people discriminating, then we march to kingdom come. bish please. Cosita is correct.
Don’t call me a bish.
I have only seen the show a few times as well, but I too had enough of her. The way she spoke was forced and was actually painful for me to watch and listen to. I don’t think she was talking “black” because most black women do not speak like that and I found her completely unrelatable. I just do not think she was a good fit for the show. It doesn’t mean she isn’t talented or that she will not be a good fit elsewhere.
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” I don’t speak venacular English ” LOL exactly what does this mean ?.
It is always amusing to me when people who love to humble brag about “speaking white ” show such poor command of the English Language ..Get it together and learn both the correct spelling and meaning of words, as well as the difference between adjectives and nouns etc.
LOL Thanks. I will use this as part of my defense next time my great aunt gets mad at me for talking white. See auntie, my nouns and adjectives are confused so I can’t possibly talk white. LOL.
Firstly the word is vernacular, it is clearly not a typo as you have misspelled it at least 4 times in your multiple posts.
Secondly the word refers to the native language,culture of a particular group, profession etc. as in African American vernacular or gay vernacular, therefore the term ,” I dont speak venacular ? English ” by itself doesn’t make much sense ( unless you were referring to people in England which I doubt and even then it would be the English vernacular )
Also when used as a noun it would be “Tamar uses a particular vernacular or spoke in her vernacular, not “Tamar was speaking vernacular” ??
Just think these are things you should know , since you “talk white”
I am crying. Sis, that was read. The library is OPEN! All sections. LOL
Interesting. So what is it that you define as a culture? I said in another post that most all the people where I live currently speak the same way regardless of race. It’s not profession. Not sexual orientation. That’s the culture based on environment which I believe all ways of speaking is based on. If I said AA vernacular English it would make no sense when white people around here talk exactly the same way. Is there need for another qualifier when I am not reffering to any particular racial, ethnic, professional group? I guess you think so. Cool. I also speak Spanish which is the first language I learned to read and write. Does everyone speak standard Spanish? No. would I ever correct someone’s Spanish? Hell no. Who cares? Anywho, thanks for wanting to show me where I was mistaken. I don’t correct but I’m not bothered by it. I’m horrible at spelling. Blessings.
Ouch! Burn!