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Tyra Banks’ “Type F” Website Pushes Bad Natural Hair Advice?

Avatar • Sep 24, 2011

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First let me say that I am generally a huge fan of Tyra. But I was a bit surprised at this video from the YouTube channel for her new Type F website. It amazes me that in an age of so many amazing online natural hair resources, content like this is still produced. Blogger Cassidy of the Natural Selection wrote the following open letter to Type F. Check it out:

Dear TypeF—

A friend sent me one of your recently launched videos by stylist JoAnn Robertson on how to style and care for natural hair.  The first video I watched “How To Lay Your Afro Down” was pretty innocuous at first, but then the stylist-vlogger whipped out a paddle brush to “smooth” her hair and I cringed as I watched her brush the surface of her dry, kinky hair.

Why?

Because one of the most basic practices of quality natural hair care is that the detangling and smoothing of natural hair should be done with extreme care, using a specific type of tool (preferably a wide tooth comb or a specific type of brush), on well moisturized hair so as not to break and damage the hair.

Highly textured natural hair needs to be treated with with particular attention in an effort to minimize any potential damage.  Unfortunately your videos preach the exact opposite.  I know this because I just sat at watched many of them on both on your YouTube channel and your TypeF website.  I sat in absolute shock as I watched your stylist put direct heat on her hair with a curling iron for a recommended “60-seconds”, use a fine-tooth comb to tease her hair to cover up a “noticeable part”, and completely ignore all fundamental mention of moisturizers, conditioners, and protecting the integrity of natural hair.

As a hair blogger and vlogger, I spend a lot of my personal time dedicated towards educating people about natural hair care, specifically QUALITY natural hair practices.  Unfortunately your video series on “afro hair” ‑featuring a stylist who has obvious hair damage to begin with along her edges, which is likely caused by longterm wearing of weaves, braids, and wigs- is seriously misguided in providing quality education to a growing community.  What is more is that your videos could actually be extremely detrimental to those attempting to learn about natural hair care because many of the practices demonstrated in them could cause serious, irreparable damage to the hair.

I strongly suggest you to pull the videos, educate yourselves about quality natural hair care, and re-shoot the series. There is a wonderfully wide world of high quality natural hair stylists, practiontioners, and manufacturers who could help you.  I would personally be happy to connect and guide you to key individuals in the natural hair community who could assist you in creating a quality production.

Sincerely,

Cassidy

Founder + Editor

naturalselectionblog.com

If you want to encourage TypeF to REMOVE-RESHOOT-REPOST these natural hair videos copy and paste the below text to the TypeF Youtube Channel!

REMOVE your afro hair videos ‑RESHOOT the videos with quality content – REPOST the new vids and ensure that the #naturalhair community is as healthy as it can be!

Better yet— leave your own comment if you feel so inspired that lets TypeF that we deserve better content and know they can deliver!

Ladies, what are your thoughts on all this?
For more of Cassidy’s writings, check out her website Natural Selection.

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JP23
JP23
9 years ago

This is so bad. Yes her hairline and hair do not scream “listen to my hair advice”. She had the nerve to pose at the end like she was doin it…unreal! “Put your afro down” lady, our hair isn’t a dog! This is beyond bad and Tyra has to do better. Im just mad because new naturals might stumble across this and damage their hair trying these “tips”.…UGH!

ebncurly
ebncurly
9 years ago
Reply to  JP23

Co-sign

JP23
JP23
9 years ago

TYPE FAIL! Ok Im done!

Les
Les
9 years ago

Why would you want to do that?

OhPuhleezee
OhPuhleezee
9 years ago

I watched a few of her videos and I’m still not 100% sure that this isn’t supposed to be some sort of joke.

Her hair looked the same in all of the videos.

I really hope no one takes her styling advice. Shame on you Tyra.

JP23
JP23
9 years ago

I went to the site and typed in “afro”.…..unreal. Im shocked.

gs
gs
9 years ago
Reply to  JP23

I know right? Where the hell are they getting these people and why do they insist on wrecking their hair by dry styling? Seriously?!?!

http://www.typef.com/video/afro-natural-hairstyles/

I can just imagine now how some high end stylist is going to think this is what you do to black hair because they saw it on a Tyra video…

JP23
JP23
9 years ago
Reply to  gs

= (

gs, I could not stop watching these videos!!!! UGH at all of them, LOL

bush
bush
9 years ago

she shoulda just left the scarf on her head.…
her hair sounded so crispy when she was brushing it, i could feel its pain.

Icy
Icy
9 years ago

GTFOH!!!!! this is a joke and they need to stop

Dominique-Alexis
9 years ago

The before look was better than the end look O.o O‑K. Epic fail!

aubin
aubin
9 years ago

I think this is supposed to be a joke or satire. It’s not real.

mikki
mikki
9 years ago

ok i know this matter isnt funny AT ALL but i cannot help but keep laughing at all the comments under the videos on the website and well as here smh & LMFAO i truly hope TYPE F gets the message

SmilingElephant
SmilingElephant
9 years ago

And THAT my friends…is natural hair care on acid.

thank you.

UH
UH
9 years ago

Agreed!

UH
UH
9 years ago

A hairstylist?!?! Come on! This has to be a joke. If not, Johane I officially fire you from You Tube. This is really really BAD advice.

Lola
Lola
9 years ago

I was cringing all trhu the first video…hearing the noise that brush was making while she was raking it thru her hair was just awful!! I refuse to watch other videos from that hair “stylist” b/c I am embarassed for her…smh

Pink Panties & Leopard Lipstick

The first video was enough! After watching her brush her hair and seeing the hairs on my arm stand up I COULD NOT bare anymore! This is just ridic!

I will def support this cause!

For shame Tyra! For shame!

T
T
9 years ago

Uuuhhh.… This looks like a joke. She cannot really be serious.

Tara Melissa
9 years ago

Wow. Ain’t that a shame.

Tara Melissa
9 years ago
Reply to  Tara Melissa

Also, considering all of the hilarious comments at the fact that her videos are universally panned (look at the thumbs up/thumbs down ratio!) I would hope a fledgling natural would not see her as an expert in the field

Carmel Stacks
Carmel Stacks
9 years ago

This had an “In Living Color” ring to it.

MsKroberts
9 years ago
Reply to  Carmel Stacks

Lmao, yes it did! As i sat looking trying go figure out why the heck she was chosen. her hair looks horribly dry and damaged and she has the audacity to do a video! The above commenter was right, she shoulda left the scarf on!

ranuka
ranuka
9 years ago
Reply to  MsKroberts

Did you see the one for going to a wedding? You would just be speechless. I guarantee it!

Yolande Vicks
9 years ago
Reply to  Carmel Stacks

OMG!! I said the SAME EXACT THING! This looks like a clip from In Living color! Lol

Nikki
Nikki
9 years ago

I thought it was a joke too, so I went to Tyra’s website to see if the videos were uploaded there. They were. I looked at other videos on the page to see if all of the videos were supposed to be a joke and the other video I watched was completely normal. I saw three different black stylists talking about different hair. I only watched two of them but they were both RIDICULOUS. The black stylist that talks about relaxed hair had the worst weave I’ve ever seen. I thought the videos were hilarious because of how terrible they looked,… Read more »

Erika
9 years ago

ummmmm.…her brows are nice!! lol

Res
Res
9 years ago

That paddle brush ish looks so painful I cringed. This has got to be a joke.

Lisel
Lisel
9 years ago

OOMGGGGGGG this HAS to be a JOKE.…all im hearing as she’s brushing is CRXXXX CRXXXX CRXXXXXXX!!!! im cringing thinking about my hair even being that dry and then attempting to brush it.…LOOOOOOOOOL.…

Erika
Erika
9 years ago

Is she out of her mind?!? All the brushing, picking, raking she’s doing on her incredibly dry, damaged looking hair it’s accomplishing nothing but making her look like a fool. Her edges are so ragged they’re laughable. Those are some of the crappiest “hairstyles” I have ever seen. An amateur on youtube can do a mohawk a million times better. As for the scarf turban wrap thing a ma jiggy, if I wanna look like Aunt Jemima while cleaning up my house (cuz that’s the only place that ‘style’ would be going), I don’t need a video for that. If she’s… Read more »

Nia
Nia
9 years ago
Reply to  Erika

+1 @ your last statement, Erika!

Jamila
Jamila
9 years ago

WOW…well, I don’t think it’s a joke. She’s clearly following her own advice…that’s why she doesn’t have any edges!! SMH!!!!!!!! How dumb…

Nia
Nia
9 years ago

::GASP:: I…can’t deal.

shemc.
shemc.
9 years ago

her edges ughhh! #yikes

Kelsey R
9 years ago

This is absolutely horrible. And I agree with JP23 I would never take advice from her. Her hair looks damaged and hearing the brush against the hair sounds like death. I weep for any woman who attempted to replicate this foolishness!

mzlusciouz
9 years ago

It’s a surprise that homegirl even has hair on her head. Poor hair! I too, had to learn the hard way…but at no point was I doing hair tutorials! I thank God that I found BGLH, I’m loving my journey!

KAM
KAM
9 years ago

As my late Bahamian grandmother would have said of Cassidy, ‘Good for she’. I also love Tyra and believe she will do the right thing after reading Cassidy’s open letter.

Slow Strut, Rouge Lips — Not Just a Fashion Blog

JP23
JP23
9 years ago

The post on using mayo mentions “smelling like a sandwich” as if using mayo is THE way to moisturize your hair. No to the lady with the orange weave telling folk how to do hair. That entire site just shows that Tyra has no clue in regards to hair care.

Yolande Vicks
9 years ago

Okay, It’s you guys’ fault, you have NO SENSE OF HUMOR! This is satire. You know, we naturalistas, have a bad rep for being too serious about our hair, and our videos/blogs/advice. Tyra just wanted to bring some humor. Right?! Oh God, Please tell me, I’m Right! Right?!

BeautyIAM
BeautyIAM
9 years ago
Reply to  Yolande Vicks

Okay, my biggest pet peeves with jokes is when its POORLY EXECUTED. I would have loved to laugh at this, but where was the punch line? LOL. If people had to figure out whether it was a joke or not…then it was done poorly. I don’t feel like some of us don’t have a sense of humor. This joke just feel flat and over my head.

zea
zea
9 years ago

Ladies, If you look at the name for the youtube channel of the videos posted above, it says “Type F”… however, if you follow the link to Tyra’s “Type F” youtube page that’s provided in the first paragraph of this article, you’ll see that the name of that channel is “Signature Series”. SIGNATURE SERIES is the official name for Tyra’s Type F, but the Type F that is listed above is obviously some type of spoof that it trying to put the poor girl in a negative light.

Tami
9 years ago
Reply to  zea

If you go to the Type F website you will see that the above video (and lots more with that lady) is featured under Hair Care Videos.

JP23
JP23
9 years ago

Even the videos listed on Tyra’s site are horrible…nevermind. I think Im just missin the point of Zea’s post??? O_o

jai
jai
9 years ago

She is clearly not a Natural Hair Stylist!!!! My head hurts from watching, my strands are trying to run the other way from this.

Angel
Angel
9 years ago

This is ridiculous! Its like some white woman that does not understand the texture of black hair made up!! INSANE!

Misha J
Misha J
9 years ago
Reply to  Angel

I think white women know more about black hair than her lol like seriously!

Misha J
Misha J
9 years ago

I posted so many comments on those videos! and I felt bad because i never like to post bad comments on videos but that was just terrible…theres a lot more people in the natural hair community that should have a license before her. I cant believe this it was hilarious but sad at the same time.

jezzy
jezzy
9 years ago

Okay ladies!! this is the real videos that are on tyra’s website and theirs only two of them i believe! http://www.typef.com/article/moisture-afro-hair/ those other videos are just so ratchet… yes i said it ratchet!! who ever made those should be ashamed, and that women’s edges were very bad(just saying)!

Fitnessangel
Fitnessangel
9 years ago

This is very sad to have these types of tutorials publish, this will give anyone who is new going natural the wrong idea regarding hair care. Tyra should be ashamed…but why would we expect for her to put out info on natural hair…she only wears wigs and weaves

wanda
wanda
9 years ago

I went to their YT to post the comment suggested and saw that so many people have already asked them to remove those vids. lol I am waiting to see if they actually do it…

Hali-Alicia
Hali-Alicia
9 years ago

this is just so wrong! and i really think it’s a joke! if so, it’s not funny @ all! well i must admit i laugh out loud while watching the “Put your afro down” video 😀 …
and she said, she’s a professional??? well i saw a lot non-professional sisters who did it much, much, muuuuuch better and whose hair is much much muuuuuuch better than hers! maybe she should subscribe to BGLH? and freshen up her professional-status 😀

Tam
Tam
9 years ago

Unless you are Samuel Jackson from Unbreakfable, Frederick Douglas or Buckwheat, why in THEE hell would you want to wear your fro “down”? Huh?
And the other chick, Tanya, with that lace front of dreckitude.…ICan’t.

JP23
JP23
9 years ago
Reply to  Tam

iWeep
X_X

eboni
eboni
9 years ago

why should afro hair be worn “down”?…doesn’t make much sense to me.

I mean unless you’re wearing your hair in twists/a protective style…why would someone feel the need to…? nevermind.

I’m all for jokes/good humor, but regardless the woman is seriously damaging her hair brushing it without a drop of water in it ‑__-

Sheryl
Sheryl
9 years ago

To be honest, their videos for makeup and relaxed hair are awful too.

hehe
hehe
9 years ago

This isn’t a joke it’s not funny enough to be satire. Tyra created her website yo give women advice on hair, makeup, and fashion and failed. My mouth literally dropped when I saw these vids. I try to look at more of her videos hoping it will get better but it doesn’t. This is horrible.

hehe
hehe
9 years ago
Reply to  hehe

This woman is a real hairstylist but on her website most of her clients are white and she doesn’t work with natural Black hair: http://www.goglambeauty.com/portfolio-page/hair-styles/page/2/ Her videos points to a bigger problem with many black hairstylist not knowing how to care for black hair(natural or relax). Think about how many of us went to a hair stylist every week to two weeks and our hair did not grow past our shoulder. Too many Black hairstylist know how to style hair but not how to care for it. Also I think her edges are f‑ed up because she wears weave or wore weave… Read more »

K.
K.
9 years ago

One glance at a couple of videos on that site and it’s clear that it’s satire. Not well done but satire nevertheless.

Tam
Tam
9 years ago

http://www.typef.com/video/style-hair-coconut-oil/

her faces at the end are giving me life.

JZ
JZ
9 years ago

Good job to all who made their voices heard. Tyra’s natural hair videos have been disabled.

cygnet
cygnet
9 years ago

I followed the link Jezzy posted. What I saw was not the hot mess featuring that JoAnn person. The person on Jezzy’s link is named Devon Williams, and her attempt at a tutorial is more serious-looking. Plus, the videos play automatically once you start the first one; all you have to do is sit there and let them play. Her hair is dark red, close-cropped on one side, and obviously thick and filled-in, even at the edges. I believe, after watching a couple of the videos, that these are the real Type F vids that Tyra meant us to see,… Read more »

Tami
9 years ago
Reply to  cygnet

If it’s a spoof, then why is JoAnn on the website? http://www.typef.com/video/make-hair-look-non-greasy/

Sieta
9 years ago

Wow…

Sometimes I was thinking ‘are you for real?’, especially when she was posing ridiculously with her finished look…

I actually watched videos for the entertainment aspect but this lady needs to clean up her act!

Felecia
Felecia
9 years ago

This has to be a joke! Not only is her advice inappropriate but her look is whack? I am all about natural hair and have been rocking my do for 20 years. Not one of these videos gave useful advice! Can Tyra and her producers really be advocating something so lame? Type F for FAIL apparently!

Olivia Golding
Olivia Golding
9 years ago

I honestly thought it was a joke while watching it. This is a serious fail and those videos shud be taken down or be renamed what Not to do or how Not to care natural hair.

CaramelDipp
CaramelDipp
9 years ago

Surely this is a joke!!!! I mean really. I only watched one…5 bobby pins to do a mohawk. This has to be satire!

gs
gs
9 years ago
Reply to  CaramelDipp

If you check out her personal website, she has links to her actual hair/make-up work. http://www.joannrobertsonbeauty.com/reel.html

I didn’t see ANYTHING about natural hair on her site. She really should just stick to doing bullet-proof quick weaves, and stop giving out half-assed hair advice.

Ruth
Ruth
9 years ago
Reply to  CaramelDipp

This can’t be real. Like, seriously? This has to be a joke!!!

shonlisa
shonlisa
9 years ago

tyra and everyone involved need they ass beat for thinking we would fall for this crap. How u gon be a fashion icon and produce some half ass videos? cuz all the videos are garbage, not just the natural hair ones.

gs
gs
9 years ago
Reply to  shonlisa

It’s not just Joanne people…they have a few more “stylists” on their site that look like they were literally pulled off the street to hock L’Oreal products. Kinda not surprised that its L’Oreal that’s probably behind this. They are a notoriously racist company. http://www.typef.com/video/afro-natural-hairstyles/ http://www.typef.com/video/soften-afro-hair/ Obviously wearing a weave… doing tutorials for relaxed hair…?!?! http://www.typef.com/video/thicken-relaxed-hair/ Clearly none of them have an actual stake in making a career of having natural hair, so i’m pretty sure they could care less about all of this drama. They will slap the bullet-proof quick weave cap back on, hook up their lacefront lobotomy and… Read more »

devon
9 years ago
Reply to  gs

Hi!! As one of the people that you used as an example I would like to say: chill out. I AM a natural hair care specialist and a licensed cosmetologist. Not off of the street. I actually know what the hell i’m talking about. BUT. The videos are done by demand media and the experts in the videos have no say so on what the titles are, the content, or anything else. The whole situation tried my nerves, i am not satisfied with the outcome of the videos, but there is nothing that we can do about it. things i know:… Read more »

devon
9 years ago
Reply to  gs

Hi!! As one of the people that you used as an example I would like to say: chill out. I AM a natural hair care specialist and a licensed cosmetologist. Not off of the street. I actually know what the hell i’m talking about. BUT. The videos are done by demand media and the experts in the videos have no say so on what the titles are, the content, or anything else. The whole situation tried my nerves, i am not satisfied with the outcome of the videos, but there is nothing that we can do about it. things i know:… Read more »

Holly
Holly
9 years ago
Reply to  devon

Devon

One girl claimed that y’all were paid by Demand Media and were given topics then told to create your own scripts for these videos. Are you claiming this is not true and that you did this for free?

devon
9 years ago
Reply to  Holly

yep. in my case, untrue. i received not one dime from Demand Media, did not meet the people that shot the video until i got there, and pretty much just talked about the subjects that they presented. the people i worked with were not open to suggestions, so, I tried to insert some of my knowledge in there but how awesome can i make ” how-to put a headband on your afro hair” ?? in hindsight, no bueno. but at the time i figured it would be decent promotion and something good to put on my resume… not the case;… Read more »

devon
9 years ago
Reply to  Holly

that is exactly what i am saying.

Holly
Holly
9 years ago
Reply to  gs

Right! But it’s not a weave, it’s cheap wigs.

canopy jones
canopy jones
9 years ago

If anyone decides to repost, please correct the typo in the second to last paragraph. If you’re gonna complain at least be on point o.O

Hanifa
Hanifa
9 years ago
Reply to  canopy jones

Child please. *eyeroll*

Tell it like it is
Tell it like it is
9 years ago

I honestly thought this was a joke! Aside from her general incompetence The woman looks CRAZY! Why would anyone let her style their hair looking like that?! Giving natural hair a bad name… smh

OlivOil
OlivOil
9 years ago

+ 1
and the way she poses and smiles.…so exaggerated and fake!

ebncurly
ebncurly
9 years ago

+ 2

Macdee
Macdee
9 years ago
Reply to  ebncurly

+3 Advice from someone whose hairline looks like rats have been at it?? No thanks!

Rain
Rain
9 years ago
Reply to  Macdee

This made me LOL for the longest time.

Lisa
Lisa
9 years ago

This is an attempt at humor. It is not terribly funny, but it is an attempt at humor. If you click through to the actual Tyra site you will see the articles she has on hair. I am ashamed of the people that are taking this so seriously. Did the natural selection blog lady really write a letter over this? We are so uptight sometimes.

cassidybarrett
cassidybarrett
9 years ago
Reply to  Lisa

I’m sorry but even if this was an attempt at humor, it is not right. There are a lot of girls out there who may want to go natural but don’t know what to do. We all know how scary that can be. My first year as a natural was a nightmare. I didn’t know about the natural hair sites and videos on youtube. I was given bad advice and I contemplated going back to the creamy crack a lot because I was discouraged. The advice this woman is giving is misleading and we had to voice our concerns.

cypress
cypress
9 years ago
Reply to  cassidybarrett

I agree wit you 100% cassidybarrett. If it was just a joke, then there should be a disclaimer at the beginning of the video.

Maya
Maya
9 years ago
Reply to  Lisa

I’m about to be longwinded…work with me people! When I initially saw the video, I thought it was satirical. I’m really…everything instruction and technique in it is completely false and counter-productive. As I watched more videos, I became less convinced that these videos are satirical and considered that Ms. Robertson is serious. To be honest, I still don’t know. If it is satire, I can tell you these videos are not funny in the least. Here’s why (at least in my opinion): Black women have come so far in appreciating and celebrating the beauty of our natural hair. We know… Read more »

Maya
Maya
9 years ago
Reply to  Maya

Excuse my typos. I didn’t review it b4 I hit submit!

NaturalnFree
NaturalnFree
9 years ago
Reply to  Maya

I totally agree. If I thought my hair would look like hers no matter what I did, or her advice was the first and or only I saw, I’d be like, I’m keeping my relaxer. She looks a mess and seems to think she looks pretty good.

Cj
Cj
9 years ago
Reply to  Lisa

Dear YouTube viewers, thank you for voicing your concern about one of the hairstyle playlists found on this channel. We have? disabled the set of videos in question and will have our editorial team review each one based on your feedback. If you have further concerns, please don’t hesitate to message us directly.

-typeF YouTube Team

Doesn’t sound like they meant for this to be humorus at all!

Lisa
Lisa
9 years ago
Reply to  Cj

The typeF team may not have been in on the “joke”. It seems they have an open “platform” where anyone can post videos.

Claire
9 years ago
Reply to  Lisa

Lisa, these videos aren’t only on Youtube. They’re up on TypeF’s site. (I’m writing because I tried to reply to you before. I don’t know if my post got through.)

Here’s a link to one about making it easier to comb natural hair:

http://www.typef.com/video/make-combing-african-american-hair-easier/

Holly
Holly
9 years ago
Reply to  Lisa

Lisa that is not true. There is no “open platform” and they knew. The videos are produced by a company called Demand Media, who partnered with Tyra on Type F. The girls are hired. What is scary is that they didn’t know better!

Todra
9 years ago
Reply to  Lisa

Nothing on Type F is meant to be humor. I know. I made some of the videos for makeup on the site. The production company that puts these together doesn’t do satirical videos. But like my videos, they are thrown together sometimes depending on the videographer and “talent” they have available. I gave good advice on my videos (I have over a decade’s worth of experience in doing makeup for celebrities, top models and magazines), but honestly, I was ashamed of the final product. And I had to do topics that I’d never have focused on. Everything about the shoot… Read more »

Lisa
Lisa
9 years ago
Reply to  Todra

So they are involved in the shooting and editing? I thought people were able to submit videos and have them uploaded.

devon
9 years ago
Reply to  Todra

+1

queen anne
queen anne
9 years ago
Reply to  Lisa

They actually posted a comment on their Type F You Tube Channel apologizing and saying they would look into it, and there is no mention of it being humor.

Holly
Holly
9 years ago
Reply to  Lisa

Unfortunately, this was not an “attempt at humor.” These woman are being paid to claim to be “experts” in hair, fashion, and beauty by a company called Demand Media who partner supposed “talent/experts” with shooter/editors.

I’m sure that Tyra did not see these videos first as there is no way she would’ve allowed them. They are insulting, especially the hot mess with the plastic Elvira wig claiming to do “relaxed African-American hair” when everyone can see it’s a bad wig! Shouldn’t the viewers actually want to look like the people in the videos?

cassidybarrett
cassidybarrett
9 years ago

OMG! Is she serious? I lol’ed so hard at this. I really love Tyra but this is an epic fail. She had Curly Nikki on her show. Why couldn’t she reach out to her or to any famous and respected natural hair vloggers?

Miz B
Miz B
9 years ago
Reply to  cassidybarrett

@Cassidy…I was thinking the exact same thing!! She had Curly Nikki on her show for pete’s sake! She could have hired her to do the videos..Tyra continues to make no sense to me. I’m so glad you took a stand, thank you Cassidy!!

Todra
9 years ago
Reply to  Miz B

Demand Media doesn’t pay the experts to do the videos. They screen the on-air people something serious though, so I’m surprised this made it through.

Aiyo
9 years ago

Man we were laughing about this so much on LHCF. You have girls with weave pretending that that is their real relaxed hair or real naturally curly/wavy hair too.

So wrong and I think by now they have gotten all the messages.

TLauren
9 years ago

I agree with CarmelDipp this cant be serious looks more like a joke too me not very funny but this certainly cant be serious.

S1MNICITY
9 years ago

yo!!!!!! I’m in disbelief my girl’s hair looked like the silicone valley!! I just posted the following on their channel Your natural hair videos are an EPIC FAIL!!! Jo-anne Robinson’s videos literally demonstrate “WHAT NOT TO DO” with afro textured hair and her hairstyles lack any creativity or flair. I expected much more from a Tyra Banks brand and this misinformation is a disservice to the natural hair community! Ms, Robinson’s hair in itself is testimony to the fact that she isn’t knowledgeable on afro textured hair care as her hair is dry, broken and damaged. The following youtubers would… Read more »

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df
9 years ago
Reply to  S1MNICITY

lmao @ silicone valley…

i’m straight up laughing tears reading the youtube comments on all the videos…i know it’s not right but this is just too much!

Domo
Domo
9 years ago

I think it is serious there are other videos many have a girl with a bad Orange weave giving tips on relaxed hair. How to “thicken it” by coating it in hairspray and using a blow dryer :(. I think either they allow users to post anything maybe but either way that’s bad.

Nicole
9 years ago

With all the phenomenal natural hair videos on Youtube, I’m pretty surprised that Tyra & Co. thought they could post these and consider them adequate. Women who are doing their own videos in their living rooms and bathrooms with just a digital camera are blowing them out of the water.

NaturalnFree
NaturalnFree
9 years ago
Reply to  Nicole

totally agree!

cypress
cypress
9 years ago

Why would anyone listen to Tyra anyway about natural hair? I love her, but when I think natural, Tyra is pretty low on the list.

Haduko
Haduko
9 years ago
Reply to  cypress

+1

JP23
JP23
9 years ago

What is the point of the “why y’all so serious” posts? We get it, some of y’all are too cool for school and nothing bothers you. I also don’t understand how people keep claiming this is not real as if the actual site is any better. I went on the site and the videos AND articles are bad. We’ll just have to agree to disagree. Seems to be a group of women who don’t give a damn about the issues this could cause for a new natural. Where is the sense of community? I love this site is but some… Read more »

Hairology
9 years ago

WOW! that’s all I can say. I think this is a YouTube publicity scam.

JL
JL
9 years ago

hahahaha! i am sorry, but i am laughing all the way through, the first video for the lay down your afro, OMG!! and the state of her own hair is testament enough! now if you let somebody with such raggedy hair style your natural hair, you go in at your own risk!
Detangle first then apply the leave-in (so where do you get your slip from Mrs R?).
I cannot watch anymore! 🙂

KN
KN
9 years ago

yah…this was HORRIBLE! U can hear the brush breaking her hair. Why would you let someone tell you how to do hair when it looks like that??? The edges are broken AND she has some short hair in the front. Do they think we are just gonna think, “oh she’s a hair stylist, so she must know what she’s talking about!” Come on…Tyra, you lost some major points on this one…Her hair looks a HOT MESS in every video! She must not wear her hair natural at all. I would never go to her. If I did, she would probably… Read more »

Thierry
Thierry
9 years ago

What on earth? None of the styles were cute and she looked uncomfortable. Not to mention she didnt really brush come or pick out her afro. these videos are ridiculous. Tyra should be ashamed. She could have found someone who knew what they were talking about. I think she made sure she chose this so called stylist so people would fall for the ignorance. Why does she look like she has gas at the end?

Tracy
Tracy
9 years ago

I’m at a loss for words…They ARE serious and I just cannot believe that this is NOT a joke.… these are toooooo funny!!!!!

ChicagoCutie
ChicagoCutie
9 years ago

I don’t think I’ve ever watched a YT video where I’ve been more shocked, stunned and speechless. All I can say is thank goodness my mother instilled in me good old fashioned common sense, because there is no way this side of heaven, or west hell, would I take the advise of this woman. When I had relaxers and looked for new stylists, rule number #1 was, if the stylist hair was jacked, she ain’t jacking mine. Same rules apply now that I’m natural. I refuse to take advice from a professional, and I use that word VERY loosely, who… Read more »

triniNAP
triniNAP
9 years ago

ON her website’s portfolio there is not ONE pic of a model with natural hair, i’m sorry i even went on her site! she knows NOTHING about NATURAL HAIR AND ITS CARE.. NOT A DAMN THING!! those videos are HORRENDOUS!!!

Koily K
Koily K
9 years ago

I think there is more to this than meets the eye. Honestly, It’s just too BAD to be true. Maybe some sort of publicity stunt? Will just watch and see.….….…..

JP23
JP23
9 years ago
Reply to  Koily K

If Tyra is as sneaky as I think she is, that will be how she spins this mess. Not a bad idea.

Cipriana
9 years ago

Wow, I hope this was a joke even though the manner and the statement on the youtube site seemed to point otherwise. The videos were very hard to watch almost like watching a horror movie. Now if this was a joke, a disclaimer definitely needed to be noted in the videos (some people who are just starting out in their hair journey can be impressionable). Also if this was a comical series of videos then this would be very amusing because she demonstrated everything you should not do for kinky textured hair. I agree with many of the ladies here… Read more »

CottonandCurls
9 years ago

Sadly, I am really not surprised. We in the natural hair community live in somewhat of our own online world and while it may seem that there is alot more knowledge out there, mainstream hairstylist are still taking a while to adjust. By continuing to spread the word and attesting to new and innovative techniques that work we will begin to see changes, little by little. But yeah, Tyra and her team should know better. She interview curlynikki, wasn’t anyone taking notes? *smh*. Oh btw readers, I am trying to consolidate the natural hair community on facebook so like us… Read more »

Najmah
Najmah
9 years ago

Man, all I can say is that she looks like she follows her “tips” all the time. If this was satire, she’d need to have a moisturized, luscious head of hair. She looks exactly like someone who kicks it with a paddle brush on dry hair every day.

I also have to wonder who goes to her to get their hair done? Geesh.

gs
gs
9 years ago

This one goes under “most unfortunate situations”, right there with the kimmaytube drama and the MixedChick’s PR fail. The natural hair community really acts like “the eye of mordor” when it comes to bad information, misconceptions, and just general drama…and I have ALOT of respect for that.

But there’s another side of me that’s just like “wow”, don’t get it right and you WILL get called out for it, hard. Makes me second guess whether I want to put a video out there myself…lol. The game has clearly been stepped up.

gs
gs
9 years ago
Reply to  gs

I’m just imagining that the whole thing was just an afterthought. Someone put out there that they needed someone to do a series on natural hair, and “Joanne the Licensed Hairstylist” was the only one who had an afro, so it was part desperation and part opportunism. They whipped her weave cap off and threw her in front of a camera. She clearly looks like she’s reading a script and probably hadn’t put into practice what she was reading or doing. Just sad.

crimsonpeach
crimsonpeach
9 years ago
Reply to  gs

LOL at the “eye of Mordor”! The online natural hair community sees all and you will be called out on it!

a
a
9 years ago
Reply to  gs

+1 eye of Mordor. Nerdy black girls unite.

BeautyIAM
BeautyIAM
9 years ago

This is so unfortunate. The natural hair community is thriving online, but you wouldn’t think so if you were to rely on this stylist. I really hope Tyra and her people take the time of actually LOOK at all of the wonderful women that have amazing natural hair. Her styles just look so elementary 🙁

df
df
9 years ago

I was thinking that 5 years ago none of us would have known better and probably would have been so happy to be relaxed because we’d be thinking that THIS is what healthy natural hair is supposed to look like! Her texture is beautiful but it’s so obvious her hair is under moisturized and that her edges and ends are pretty ravaged. BUT this is the funniest thing ever. I’m also very very embarrassed for her because I’m watching these videos thinking this cannot be real life. Even her makeup videos are horrible! It looks like Tyra is just pulling… Read more »

Nat
Nat
9 years ago

I don’t even know where to start. It felt like nails on a chalk board, hearing this woman use a paddle brush on dry hair. While I understand that Tyra wants to expand her empire and bank account, she should have done her research first. #1. JoAnn Robertson is missing some edges (sorry, I noticed) so I’m going to take her words with several grains of salt. As the saying goes, “never trust a skinny chef,” NEVER trust a stylist with a busted hair-do! #2. Ms. Robertson used that same bottle of Herbal Essense Longterm Relationship in about 3 separate videos… Read more »

Canteloupe_Brown
Canteloupe_Brown
9 years ago
Reply to  Nat

*cheers*. co-signs.

Earth Angel
Earth Angel
9 years ago

I’m sorry…Tyra FAILED In a BIG way. It’s not just the bad advice coming from someone with obviously damaged hair that offends me, but the PRETENDING to apply product to and styling of hair in the videos. What is THAT? Also the fact that it looks like Tyra made NO EFFORT in trying to find a natural hair care expert is AWFUL. With of her connections and resources she could have done so much better but she didn’t even bother to TRY to make the effort…SAD…

Canteloupe_Brown
Canteloupe_Brown
9 years ago

Type F just set the Afro Hair Tips video to “Unlisted”… better watch while you still can.

KayPea
KayPea
9 years ago

Wow. These tips on natural hair care are very poor. You seem like a lovely woman, but you really don’t know how to properly care for natural African American Hair. All of your tips are on the top of? my WHAT NEVER TO DO list. I know you mean well, but these videos are extremely detrimental and disappointing. I usually never post negative responses, but a celebrity supported channel that is funneling horrible advice MUST BE ADDRESSED!!

Luxe
Luxe
9 years ago

I want to say it’s suppose to be satirical, but the crazy part is.… It’s not funny, its like sarcastic and just plain off lol. I wanted to see if they were giving horrible advice to other races and hair types … and they are. This advice either sucks or it’s just plain obvious. There is video with a woman telling you how keep your bangs from splitting apart… and get this, she just combs the mess together!!!!!! What! lol I’m angry, but it’s almost laughable, how they are putting this mess online. IAnd the website isn’t any better… http://www.typef.com… Read more »

Angela
Angela
9 years ago
Reply to  Luxe

Or “Cute clothes to wear in Las Vegas” Really??? Are you serious? You wear same damn clothes in vegas, wherever the hell you want to wear them!!!
I am literally on the floor!!

Yahlah Yisrael
9 years ago

I don’t think this was meant to be funny…but IT WAS HILARIOUS! This by no means represent naturals accurately. It was just so funny b/c she did everything wrong smh…Lol…I really think she was serious though.

madgi
madgi
9 years ago

OMG…I keep hoping that this is a joke.…Im going to tel myself that its a prank video..

MsFenty
9 years ago

I still think it was a joke, I think it wasn’t very well thought out though. I mean ALL of the videos were bad. One lady was claiming to be a make-up artist, and she had NO eyebrows and 2inches of foundation caked on her face, and this other lady (of the caucasian persuasion) did this sloppy ponytail and called it a style. I find it hard to believe that it’s not a joke, it just didn’t come off as funny as it could have or .… Idk I can’t believe that these ppl would seriously be giving this type… Read more »

Lisa
Lisa
9 years ago

Can people please stop assuming that if a person is a new natural they are also an idiot? I am not sure if it is projection or what, but we are all not you. I am a newish natural and I would not have gone back to relaxer because of a 1 minute series of videos. I also did not decide to go natural to join a trend, it was because of I was tired of relaxers, salons, and stylists. Any new natural or transitioner that has access to these videos, has access to the other videos on youtube. I… Read more »

ebncurly
ebncurly
9 years ago
Reply to  Lisa

There were a lot of people who commented on Youtube who were not as strong or smart as you. They said — had they come across these vid it would have been damaging.

Edie
9 years ago

It was a rather nasty attempt at satire- and it failed miserably. One of the things i have learned from writing several (failed to option) scripts is that satire and parody has to be grounded in a sense of the absurd and yet be real. Why did the satire fail? Because it was based in self loathing sarcasm, not absurd and not real. Sarcasm is not satire nor parody. Even with women who did not know how to grow out their natural hair, they would never and have never treated their hair in that way. The women who appear on hair… Read more »

Canteloupe_Brown
Canteloupe_Brown
9 years ago
Reply to  Edie

It’s not satire. The hair styling for relaxed black women and white women are even worse…if even that was possible. The “relaxed” haired woman is wearing a blond weave..

And it’s a piss poor weave at that.

and for short haired white women, the “stylist” ends up having a bird’s nest for a hair do. It’s just tragic.

Wow…just wow. I think Tyra failed to vet any of this content before it went “live”.

Anonymous
Anonymous
9 years ago
Reply to  Edie

Unfortunately, it would have been better if it WAS a failed attempt at satire. But it wasn’t. These girls were chosen, hired, and paid to make what the Type F execs thought were actual how-to videos! The scariest part is that there was obviously no one in the room with half a brain that could see that the videos were no good! And I am sure there were no Black women there! Sheesh, talk about the dumbing down of America!

ebncurly
ebncurly
9 years ago

Wow — the videos are private now. Guess Tyra and her team read the comments.

NaturalSweety
NaturalSweety
9 years ago

I hate to say this and sound like a conspiracy theorist, but I refuse to believe that with the wealth of information, gurus and videos on natural hair done by individuals with their own time and resources that a team of people of Tyra Banks caliber could not at least tap into some of that and come out with something descent if not outstanding. With that said in my opinion, I think this may be an attempt to jeopardize the natural hair community. I am sure Tyra(models and celebrities have a big influence in the society) has a huge following… Read more »

Lisa
Lisa
9 years ago
Reply to  NaturalSweety

Did you see the woman with the wig? She looked worse! She was a PSA for throwing away the fake blond wig.

ranuka
ranuka
9 years ago
Reply to  NaturalSweety

If something will be backed by your name, and will be viewed by millions of people, you want to make sure that it’s top of the line. All the videos were bad — while one lady in weave was telling you how to do twists, she called it twisting this S***. I had to go back because i thought I misunderstood what she said, I just couldn’t believe she said that on a supposedly “professional hair site”.

Not a Coincidence
Not a Coincidence
9 years ago
Reply to  NaturalSweety

It is now evident to me that upsetting blacks with offensive, suggestive or insensitive material is now a marketing tool. Ads don’t make themselves, nor do product videos, people make them. The negative attention will not destroy the company since many companies consider “any press to be good press”, and all it will do is cause people talking about their product. Those who are not offended will see it as harmless or just more blacks playing the race card and try to find good things to say about the product. All in all, with more people blogging about it they… Read more »

Anonymous
Anonymous
9 years ago
Reply to  NaturalSweety

Nah, it wasn’t smart enough to be a conspiracy. The wink wink “relaxed hair” and some of the white girl videos are just as bad! It was just a bad idea all around.

Tam
Tam
9 years ago

That mess is private on youtube now but it’s all still up in it’s glory on the typef.com website. Which is probably worse.

This one is a gem.
http://www.typef.com/video/styling-natural-ethnic-hair/

Oooweee, I could fight her.

karlyne
karlyne
9 years ago

I’ll just say this~~ this is one of the main reasons why Black Women wouldnt consider going Natural in the past. This woman’s hair looks horrible.. Yes I love being natural and I have coily hair, but we have advance way further then the nonsense that is being promoted by a licensed stylist. At least her make up application appears to ne flawlwss

AishaSaidIt
9 years ago

well, it looked liked it worked because I can’t see anything

AishaSaidIt
9 years ago
Reply to  AishaSaidIt

No wait I see it. LOLOLOLO.…she had me in tears. She just threw that butterfly clip and there and was like TADAAAA. Wow. The only thing I can say is I like her makeup.

AishaSaidIt
9 years ago
Reply to  AishaSaidIt

OMG all the hair types are tragic. Thanks Tyro

Lala
Lala
9 years ago

I too thought that this maybe some sort of stunt by Tyra to prove how people give misinformation or how people react, etc. But then… I really looked at Joanne’s hair… and honey, no stunt is worth looking like that. Her hair is seriously dry and damaged. Furthermore, it wasn’t too long ago that Essence gave out dreadful advice for natural hair ( only shampoo, only use oil as a moisturizer) by a “licensed hairdresser”. Not to mention, Oprah’s stylist suggestion to perm kinky hair faux pa a few weeks ago as well. So don’t be surprised if this indeed… Read more »

Onia
Onia
9 years ago

I am starting to feel like this is a cynical marketing ploy on behalf of tyra banks. It’s not just the natural stuff, there is a lot of bad crap on that site. 1. Stylists with wig/weaves demonstrating ON THEIR WEAVES how to style relaxed hair. 2. Make up artists with visibly bad skin and bad makeup demonstrating on themselves bad make up techniques. 3. Advice for short haired women that produce styles worse than the starter style. 4. Joann, poor, poor Joann. The obvious damage from a wig/weave that shows she doesn’t work with natural hair often, the dryness, the bad… Read more »

df
df
9 years ago
Reply to  Onia

they ALL say they are stylists, make up artists…etc.
i’m thinking they are all told to say it…

devon
9 years ago
Reply to  df

nope. i’m actually a hair stylist.

AishaSaidIt
9 years ago
Reply to  Onia

The relaxed hair tutorials on an obvious wig are pure comedy. Whatever the motive is, I surely appreciate the laugh. And the poses, girl the poses. *tears*

Coco Rose
9 years ago

And I thought Tyra was an intelligent woman. This Harvard Alum deserves an ‘F’ for foolish…these videos are VERY insulting to ALL Black women.

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Anonymous
Anonymous
9 years ago

I write for TypeF, and I’ve never produced a video for them, but here’s my take based on what I understand of the workings of the site. Just so you know, I’m a writer with natural hair, and I write about natural hair and relaxed hair as well as makeup techniques. My only qualifications are that I’m an experienced writer and I have been working with my hair and skin my entire life. I“m not a stylist, and have never claimed on the site (or elsewhere) to be one. I do research and consult experts to support the advice I… Read more »

Onia
Onia
9 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Thank you for this information and your perspective as an insider, I gotta tell you, it makes me have even less sympathy for Joann. If it was the same scenario as above, she could have done the research. Youtube is free. She could have cribbed ideas from other natural vloggers, made them look like her own, and then struck a pose. No one would have noticed. Instead it seems like she did half-@$$ research. Like, she went on a hair site and read that water and leave-in conditioner were staples for naturals. But instead of reading further (i.e. Put the water… Read more »

NaturalSweety
NaturalSweety
9 years ago
Reply to  Onia

co-sign

Holly
Holly
9 years ago
Reply to  Onia

Amen! And it is not just the natural videos. The supposed relaxed hair videos were the woman is sporting a bad and obvious wig are also an embarrassment to Black women with relaxed hair!

NaturalSweety
NaturalSweety
9 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

something’s gotta give! If they are just using the site for content creation then they should know that the content quality is no good whats worse is that they don’t care about it, since their goal is not giving quality content but rather producing content at any cost. The people creating the content may not have any malicious intention but it does affect the natural community. And it is the responsibility of Trya or whoever is behind the website to screen what is put out there is credible and does have some kind of quality and I’m not only talking… Read more »

Lola
Lola
9 years ago

Not gonna lie, I’m kind of pissed that this letter, as well as people spamming their YouTube page caused the videos to be taken down. I didn’t get to see them. Would have been a great source of entertainment.

Ashley
Ashley
9 years ago
Reply to  Lola

+1

Holly
Holly
9 years ago
Reply to  Ashley

They were removed from the YouTube channel. But you can still see a whole slew of bad videos on African American hair and makeup on the actual Type F site.

OhLordy
OhLordy
9 years ago

All I have to say is, if we keep this up, and continue to support vlogging stylists/actresses, we may finally be able to overthrow the misinformation industry that is the mainstream media!!

Soliel
Soliel
9 years ago

Wow. Looks like this helped. The videos are removed. (=

Karma
Karma
9 years ago

Why is the site even named “Type F”? Am I missing something here?

Ameena
Ameena
6 years ago
Reply to  Karma

Type fierce, I believe

Lisa
Lisa
9 years ago

I’d like to add some comments in the hope that the Type F staff is paying any attention at all. I’m a white hairstylist. I was lucky enough to have a black instructor for part of my schooling and learned more than most white people about african-american hair. Though I was too late to see any of Joann Robertson’s videos, I read enough comments to be horrified at what she did to her hair. As I continued reading comments and articles, I watched some of the other videos that are available on the Type F website, for both caucasion and african american… Read more »

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Courtney
9 years ago

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The Emmy award nominated Tyra Banks Show will soon be heading to the east coast after spending its first two seasons out west. The Los Angeles based program will be taping season three at the Chelsea Television Studios in New York. This move is like a homecoming of sorts for the former supermodel. New York has always been considered as one of the top fashion meccas in the world. It was a frequent stomping ground of the former catwalk star during her modeling days. Banks was quoted as saying, “I’m thrilled to be moving to New York… I feel connected… Read more »

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