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Tuesday marked the 2nd birthday for Blue Ivy Carter.
The cute toddler was spotted celebrating her birthday with her parents, Beyonce and Jay-Z in the infamous Jungle Island at the Miami Zoo.
Erykah “On and On” Badu recently debuted her new hairstyle a la House Party/Class Act on Twitter a couple of days ago.
We think she is owning it! Are you feeling Badu’s retro look?
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beautiful look
I think Blue Ivys hair is/looks absolutely amazing.
Awwwww. You’re mad. That’s adorable. There’s one thing I won’t do. I will not change my opinion to please anyone. I could understand if there was one picture of Blue looking that way but there are many. You’re right it’s not my cup of tea but my opinion still remains.
Your response clearly indicates your archetype. Not once did anyone ask you to change your opinion. You are missing the point. But we all can agree that since no one truly knows the truth and since you have no basis for these accusations and assumptions that you are publicly putting out, you could have at least entertained the idea of the possibility that you could may be wrong. Instead you assume the worse then broadcast it to the public. That says a lot about you.
Why is it so hard for people to just let others do what they do without the constant bashing, assumptions, ignorance and accusations?
I could be wrong but I get the feeling that you are one of those people that dislike beyonce for whatever reason, so this can all be coming from biased place. No matter how much reasoning is presented to you, you will always approach this situation with prejudice.
What I find so insreetting is you could never find this anywhere else.
Yes, all the pictures are the same because it shows that Beyonce is not concerned with pleasing folks like yourself. She has a different approach than you do, oh well…let her be and get over yourself. Why do you feel the need to express your invalid opinion. I can see if it brought value to this discussion but it doesn’t. Why? Because you are making accusations and assumptions based off of photos without seeing her hair in person, without knowing anything about these people.
People call ACS on For these reasons?? Where I am from, a lot of free spirited care free folks Adults and kids wear their hair like this… They tend to be on the artsy side but still, it’s quite normal. They tend to focus more on what goes in their heads vs what on the surface……
Did you style blues hair? Have you seen her hair in person? If not then how do you come to these conclusions? You are making these claims on the basis of what “appears” to be the case to you. Are you at least willing to acknowledge the fact that you could be wrong about your opinions?
There is nothing wrong with natural hair and leaving it free, but natural hair does not mean Neglect. The photos of Blue tell me everything I need to know. If Beyonce didn’t want the public to have a say on Blue’s Hair, she shouldn’t post the pictures. Beyonce is the problem not the child. She acts like she’s a white mother to a black child. And Yes like I said before if it was the average American, ACS would have been on our Ass. Those are not curls, but Knots.
correct me if i’ wrong but when you say that she is acting like a white mother, does this mean that white women can get away without ACS being called on them because they are white and lack the knowledge of black hair care?
Just because someone is in the public eye, it does not make it right for people to make publicly harsh, negative or arbitrary assumptions. These things tend to cause more harm than good, allowing things to blow up into something bigger than it should be because there are the bandwagon jumpers, then there are the people who just hate beyonce, then there are the people who just feel compelled to express their worthless opinions with no basis.
But just for argument sake, let’s say that beyonce does not maintain Blue’s hair as she should, do you really believe that she would purposely let her child leave the house with neglected hair? Knowing how people are? Do you really believe with all the people and family around her, that someone wouldn’t comb the child’s hair if they felt it looked neglected? Why would she purposely put her child out their to the public that way? Doesn’t make sense. Unless she is trying to make a statement?
Hmm…Because let’s not forget how everyone attacked Solange for wearing her afro freely as she pleased as well. Solange stated that she combed her hair but to the public, as usual it wasn’t good enough. It appeared unkept and dry to the black folks. Always black people and the criticisms on how people should wear their hair.
In my humble opinion, this is all just a big misunderstanding. What if that hair is a wash n go? She washed it, lightly finger combed it, put some moisturizer in there and called it a day? Is that considered neglect because she did not thoroughly detangle and styled it to your liking? Martine, what do you consider neglect in terms of hair?
I just cannot fathom how someone would even think of calling ACS for this reason?
I was writing about a specific topic and it was about Hair not ASC. Offcourse the law is for anyone. But wait! It’s not? From what I see in the media it surely not for celebrities.
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In my humble opinion, this is all just a big misunderstanding. What if that hair is a wash n go? She washed it, lightly finger combed it, put some moisturizer in there and called it a day? Is that considered neglect because she did not thoroughly detangle and styled it to your liking? Martine, what do you consider neglect in terms of hair?
No it’s not if she did but my question to you is How Do You Know? That’s the reason you had to start the question with “What If?” In my opinion the photos tell me everything I need to know. It might be a little Naive to come to a final conclusion but Oh Well. The question should be: Why does Beyonce make sure to come out on point but can’t do the same for Blue? I didn’t even know that Blue Ivy was a girl.
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I just cannot fathom how someone would even think of calling ACS for this reason?
What? You can’t!!! I think someone has been in their fairy land too long and forgot about reality. From experience ACS don’t play the sympathy card with anyone. They simply go by what they see in front of them until further investigation.
What if? How do you know? All the same, the point is, none of us know. So how does it help to assume the worse? Why do you feel so compelled to voice your arbitrary opinion based off of a photo? You present your opinion as if it is the end all be all without even acknowledging the great possibility that you could be wrong? Everything is not as it seems so it can go either way. But again it does not make it right to publicly humiliate, insult and spread arbitrary opinions and or assumptions that have no basis?
I just don’t see your point.
So what if you didn’t know that Blue was a girl. Does it matter? Beyonce is obviously allowing her child to be free, to be a little girl vs looking like a perfect little doll, with sleek, neat strands with bubbles, clips and bows(not that anything is wrong with that either.) The child is wearing her hair out freely just like her white haired, or loose curl haired counterparts. The only difference is that Blue’s hair is kinkier, curlier, tighter and so that makes it appears unkept to you. Because of your mentality, that’s what you choose to see. Go and explore the world and get to know people outside of your circle.
Your comments about her acting like a white mom tends to come from a certain type of person. Do you travel outside of your community and country a lot? Are you well versed in other cultures? Do you get around? If you were a humble, compassionate, respectful, open minded person then you would not think the way that you do. Your mentality needs an upgrade. We are all a work in progress.
“Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.”
I wish you growth, peace, love and wisdom.
How can a photo like this… tell you everything you need to know? How is that valid? How can you make these accusations about people you do not know and have never met? If beyonce was neglecting her child’s hair, do you think she would purposely prance around in public with Blue like that? I’m almost certain that there are people in her crew that would have stepped up and did the child’s hair if they felt it was neglected, especially Beyonce’s mother. That would make sense because they actually know and see the child. Correct?
And what exactly does it meant to act like a white mother with a black child? Every black family is not the same. Just because Beyonce and other families a like choose to put more emphasis on things other than neat hair styles, does not make them the type of parents who “act like white parents?!”
I know many folks, parents from all socioeconomic backgrounds spanish, black, white, biracial kids that would send their kids to school and elsewhere with their hair like this. These kids are far from neglected, they are well kept, clean and intelligent. But because of their free spirited nature, their lack of fashion sense which is not important, and their lack of neat, sleek hair do’s, based on your comments, you would probably focus more on their exterior vs what’s in their heads and what comes out of their mouths.
I know of a boy who has very similar hair to Blue’s, he said he washed his hair everyday and left little conditioner in it, but his hair would still sometimes appear tangled but at least it was still awesomely wild and clean!! He would literally wash, air dry and go! Barely used a comb. Should ACS be concerned about him too?
I’ve had non black & mixed kids with “wild” looking hair. One was a black/white light Hispanic brown boy with a mass of super curly 3C coarse frizzy hair & two 3B/C PuertoRican girls with a similar type of hair only finer. He didn’t load his with grease or pay much attention to it so it looked dry but it was always clean & the girls’ hair was below their shoulders & fanned out from their heads so thick & fluffy it looked like they each had enough hair for two people. Then there were some Chinese boys with jet black spikey looking hair. You know these “hair whorls” you see in the back of straight/wavv haired kids?Everyone has them but they’re most visible on straight & wavy hair. Most people have one, a few have two. See the images. Those Chinese boys had these whorls & their very thick hair radiated out from those whorls all over their heads straight & spikey with very thick strands & looked like it was electrified. I never heard ONE Hispanic or Chinese kid talking bad about those kids’ hair . Just the black boys picking on black girls about braids & weaves & laughing at one of the black teachers who wore her super thick hair in a partly braided partly afro puff style which looked great. My people,my people.
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Yep, this is unfortunately true but I never fully blame the kids. They learned this from somewhere. Thank goodness not all black folks are this way but there are way too many that are like this.
What in the world?
Her public status is not the issue but to prove a point for the sake of this situation I will have to say that Beyonce is one of the richest black women, with an entourage for any and everything..If she was concerned with styling Blue’s hair to appease folks, or for argument sake, if Blue’s hair was neglected because Beyonce’s laziness about doing her hair, don’t you think she would have a team of stylist style the child’s hair or even her mom? Obviously the constant styling in order to appear glammed up or “presentable” to the public is not her concern. What seems to matter is that Blue get’s to be a kid and that she is healthy, learning, happy, loved and financially set for life!
For the average parents that I know of, who have the same hair care approach as beyonce appears to have…Their kids are Bright, happy, well adjusted, loved, clean, healthy, with not a care in the world and with the right mentality to be set for life!
Everything is not for everyone. You do what you do and let others do what they do, without the assumptions, and crazy accusations. As long as anyone isn’t hurt in any way, shape or form by one’s choices then you should not be concerned not one bit. Not your cup of tea? That’s fine, wish them well and move.
I meant and *move on*
Adele did write the song and has raw emotion dvriing her to? push her through the performance. Where as Kelly would relate to it and the emotion is slightly different then. That’s all. I enjoy both, but this cover is amazing, she did it justice.
I’m mad that these celebrities are always getting a free pass. If it was the average American ACS would have been on our Ass. They knew what they were getting into when they became celebrities. And don’t you know that Beyonce can be doing that for the attention? Every time black women posted a comment, the reaction from others is always negative. If dont like yourself, as a black woman I love myself. It’s our opinio people, get over it. Why are you still there? Those are not curls. Her hair need to be combed and moisturize ( not perms, hot combs, and extension).
how do you know whether or not her hair is not moisturized. It looks healthy to me.
*side steps the Blue Ivy hair discussion*
Badu is rocking the heck out of that high top fade. I love the face she’s serving up too. Get it gurl.
The baby is beautiful…just like her mom. She doesn’t need anything else done to her hair except to just be her cute little self. Based on some of the most ignorant comments I’ve seen on this site, I would’ve hoped we would have evolved by now…but I see hope springs eternal.
I don’t know about the rest of you, but I truly do love Blue’s look. If I had a daughter, I wouldn’t flat iron or relax my daughter’s hair either. I like big, fluffy hair. The bigger, the better. I think Blue is extremely cute. She looks like a little girl and not a little woman like some of you may think she should look. It’s so unfortunate that we as black women have to hurl unkind words towards other black women and girls. Worry about your own damn self, and we’ll all be okay. To each their own, but this child is simply that…a child! If she was styled differently, you’d be complaining about something else.
I like Blue Ivy. I think she is super cute (and I’m not hardly a Beyonce fan). She’s 2, leave her hair alone.Beyonce knows she can afford someone to have her baby’s hair “whipped”, but it looks like she’s keeping it easy, natural and free. Maybe that’s Beyonce’s real-life lifestyle/personality, kind of free and hippyish. We don’t know because the only glimpses we get to see of their personal lives are the pictures they allow to be posted by the media. Everyone has a right to an opinion but should the passion behind some of these opinions about some else’s 2 year old little girl be so strong? Seems a little emotionally imbalanced to me (but that’s just my opinion..hahahaha!)
Ms. Badu looks fierce! I love how she does whatever the heck she wants to do.
Haha, shouldn’t you be charging for that kind of kngoledwe?!
Nobody’s PERSONAL decisions are publicly critiqued, scrutinized, dissected and mocked as much as black women’s. Shameful.
I know this turned into the Blue Ivy show…but I’m loving Ms Badu’s new look! LOL
I’m glad Beyonce is letting the baby hair be free. She has a chance of having some edges and not wearing weave by the age of 12. Beyonce know the feeling.
I think Blue us beautiful just the way she is, it looks as though she has a black head band on top of those beautiful curls. I’m sure Beyonce knows what she’s doing when it comes to HER child. Leave that baby alone.
So much hateration on this board !! It’s a shame that some people can get so worked up over a cute child (THAT IS NOT THEIRS ) who’s from an intact & loving family because they don’t like her hair. The same mess went on with Gabby Douglas’ hair when she became THE FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN GYMNAST TO WIN GOLD IN THE ALL AROUND & TEAM GOLD in the same Olympics. But do some black women salute her for that ?? OH NO! Accomplishments mean nothing to them !! It’s what her HAIR looks like! Now they’ve transferred their warped thinking to a cute 2 year old baby. My people my people !! Until we learn to get our priorities & values straight & learn to treat each other with respect & CHRISTIAN CHARITY our race is doomed ????. That’s why our communities are full of gun happy kids killing each other,& why every new immigrant group starts out setting up businesses in black areas because they soon find out we don’t support each other . God help us all ????
I could not have said it any better. How can we expect people of other races respect us, when we do not respect each other? Why should they?
This is actually disgusting. How do we expect other races to respect us? Because we are people! Black people don’t have to work for or earn the worthiness of other races respect. Not to mention the why should they part is screaming self-hate.
Especially when one of the main reasons why we don’t respect ourselves and/or each other is internalized hate that started with a European origin….
…being human never meant anything if these humans have no respect for each other as fellow humans.
The truth of the matter is people are not going to respect you just because you are simply a fellow human being. Your logic is more idealistic than realistic I’m afraid.
Exactly. Thank you! Black people are so ingrained with white supremacy that we don’t even understand how terrible it is to think we need to “earn” being treated respectfully. They don’t realize that they’re basically saying we need to earn our humanity. Sad.
I agree with you. All people are individuals. You have good and bad in every culture and race. So tired of people worrying about whether or not “OTHER” races respect us. We don’t need to earn anyone’s respect but our kids. As for Beyoncé nobody points out the fact that sister Beyoncé is a brilliant musician,singer,song writer and dancer? NO One. The most impressive thing about Beyoncé I the fact that she is an outstanding mother and business woman. She has mastered her craft and better than any singer out there right now…When it comes to marketing and business she is a genius. She is always with her daughter having a ball.
Exactly! People are leaving comments like, is hair that serious? Why are we still talking about this? Move on! Get over it..it’s just hair. No it’s not just hair, it’s beyond that. Again, people are always missing the bigger picture. The issue is one’s mentality. We as people are so conditioned it’s pathetic. If this is the way you think, if this is your mentality, if this is the way you approach things that are different than what you are use to, then I can only imagine how you approach other areas in life.
The majority of people who are critiquing, judging, bashing, making assumptions, give their “opinions” and or saying ignorant things are black folks!! That’s the saddest thing! Why people why?!
Sleek, Neat hair vs un-manipulated, wild/free or simple hair is all just simply style choices. And it’s ok to have your preferences. Why can’t we just leave it at that?
THANK YOU NUBIA- EVEN DOWN TO PICKING ON A SMALL CHILD,A TWO YEAR OLD A CHILD!!! TIGHTEN THAT CHILDS HAIR MAKE IT TIGHT?? OIL THAT HAIR???SICK SICK WOMEN (Not all)
THE CHILD IS RICH BEYOND OUR WILDEST DREAMS, WITH HER WILD BEAUTIFUL TWO YEAR OLD HAIR, BET THERE IS SO MANY NEAT HAIR IN THE PROJECTS BUT YOUR CHILDREN ARE IN THE GHETTO POOR AEA WITH NEAT HAIR( some of you)..GO AND CHECK..BUT BLUE IVY SHE TRAVELS FIRST CLASS..SHE TRAVELS IN A YOT, SHE HAS MAIDS WAITING ON HER..SHE HAS BOTH PARENTS,SHE IS 100% LOVED,AND SHE IS A BLACK FEMALE, WHAT WE NEED TO SEE MORE OF..AND NONE OF YOU( HATEFUL TYPES) CAN BE HAPPY FOR A BLACK FEMALE LIVING IN LUXURY..BITTER R….ST BLACK Nzzzeeezzz THANKS TO THE SISTERS WHO SUPPORT A YOUNG BLACK FEMALE GROWING UP IN LUXURY AND LOVE!THANK YOU BUT THE HATER TYPES ON A TWO YEAR OLD? SICK OF IT, NO WONDER BEYONCE IS IN WEAVES etc WHY WOULD SHE CARE TO GO NATURAL!, SHE KNOWS ALOT OF YOU ARE HYPOCRITES ANYWAY, LOOK HOW ALOT OF YOU TARE DOWN HER NATURAL SISTER SOLANGE, AND YOU THINK BEYONCE WILL GO NATURAL ANYTIME SOON HA! AND DONT SAY IT’s CRITIQUING BECAUSE YOU TARE DOWN THE CHILD PERSONALLY, AND BLACK GIRL WITH LONG HAIR SHOULD STOP SHOWCASING CHILDREN OF CELEB’s etc AS THEY ARE KIDS, AND PEOPLE WILL TAKE THEIR HATE OUT ON THE CHILD BECAUSE OF THE PARTICULAR CELEB THEY DONT LIKE.
THANK YOU.
Actually, they shouldn’t even be hating on Bey for wearing weaves & lace fronts. SHE’S A PERFORMER, for heaven’s sake. She comes onstage with different outfits & different hairstyles..straight,wavy, & curly. She’s gotta have people to help with fast multiple costume changes,etc & the easiest way to handle different fast hairstyle changes is to wear wigs,extensions or hairpieces. You can’t put YOUR OWN HAIR thru that many changes with flat irons to make it straight for one part of the show & curling irons to add waves or curls for other parts of a show. Talk about damaged hair! You would have no hair left at all !! I don’t know why so many BLACK WOMEN get upset over performers wearing wigs. WHITE ACTORS, ACTRESSES, & PERFORMERS DO IT ALL THE TIME FOR DIFFERENT ROLES & SHOWS. I’ve even heard them mention wearing hair extensions & wigs. No big deal to them,but black folks gotta make stupid drama about it. Before I retired from teaching I’d had to deal with 5th or 6th grade ELEMENTARY SCHOOL BLACK BOYS ridiculing girls that wore braid extensions or hairpieces & talking about them really having nappy hair. This in front of classes made up of kids of different nationalities who couldn’t understand what the fuss was about. I would have to tell those IGNORANT boys that THEY HAD THE SAME KIND OF HAIR ON THEIR HEADS ! That wigs,hairpieces & extensions go back to the days of King Tut, are worn all over the world & the girls had the right to wear their hair any way they wanted to. I also told girls to NEVER EVER associate with any boys who did not respect them or the way they wore their hair because such boys ARE NOT WORTH THEIR TIME !
Oh thank you so much for your post. I see things have not changed much in the classroom. Back in my day, the Black boys would berate the dark skinned girls to no end. The difference is the teachers remained silent. Or would actually laugh alone with the disrespectful boys. The girls with light skin and long curly or straight hair were favorited by Black boys and teachers. Today, many dark skinned, kinky haired Black women are married or date non-black men. They are called “sell-outs” by the Black community. But the truth of the matter is non-black men tend to treat dark skinned kinky haired Black women with respect. Black men do not. Shame.
Actually it hasn’t changed that much in the classroom. I’ve also had to scold kids for talking about dark skinned girls, altho that was in schools with all black kids. I remember that mess going on in the 60s when I was a kid. Many teachers as well as blacks in general favored light skinned kids & kids with “good hair”. It was a really stupid hierarchy with the light/ “good hair” girls at the top,then the lights with any kind of hair,then the brown with any kind of hair,and the very dark with hair a “snap” long at the bottom. If you were brown or dark & had “good” or long hair, a LOT of folks got really jealous & mad because it was like you were some kind of genetic sellout or traitor. I was in the brown (Oprah’s color) category & had long braids & some girls would threaten to cut it, but never did because back in that day we all had real parents that would’ve whipped some butts if their kids did that .As for black men & dark skinned women, check out Bill Dukes’ documentary “Dark Girls”. There’s prejudice against dark girls in other countries,too and i hat to say it ,but you’re right about some non black men treating dark black women better than our own men do. Some of my older family members talk about a really dark very pretty girl in their town back in the old days in the 30s & 40s. Black men avoided her because of her color plus the fact that she liked to wear very bright colors,esp orange & red. She didn’t let it bother her & went on with her life,eventually marrying a white guy & moving away. When Lupita Nyong’o came out KILLIN IT in that red dress, I immediately thought of that girl.
Beautiful, perfect comment! Preach!!!!! My daughter has long super thick hair. She tell me that one of the black boy kept telling her, her hair is nappy. I told her the same thing. Don’t talk to boys like that they are not worth your time.
You hit the nail on its head. I so agree with you!!!!!!
I’ll never understand how it’s OK to be disrespectful towards a child. People don’t think how this baby will grow up and possibly read this nonsense. I always say the same people who say these horrible things about Blue Ivy’s hair are the same people who would flip their wig if someone disrespected their children or loved one. And no being a celebrity does not mean they should be the target of nastiness and hatred. They are human beings too. It’s never OK to be rude and mean especially over HAIR and towards a child no less.
Yes, you can have an opinion and no you don’t have to like Blue Ivy’s hair but being hateful and downright mean towards a child will never be OK.
Beyonce’s baby is beautiful. The baby is wearing her hair in its natural state. She’s 2 years old. There’s no need for anything fancy. And if she was bald headed so what. She rich and loved by a large family unit. People are so jealous. Instead of being jealous, they should get off of the internet and make something positive happen in their lives.
The tamed, sleek, “well kept, every strand in place look vs the free, wild, frizzy, simple look, no matter the texture is just simply a hair style preference.
This is based on years upon years of observation, but sadly, it appears that when people with naturally straight, loose waves/curls wear their hair out wild and stress free, they are more widely accepted. Why can’t people accept kinky, frizzy, afro type textures in it’s natural state as well? I don’t understand the issue with Blue Ivey or any other child for that matter who’s parents choose to let their children hair just be! What is the problem here? What am I missing? Where is the logic in all this madness?
You don’t have to have the same preference, you like what you like and accept the fact that others like what they like and move on!!!! It’s really simple people. Variety is the spice of life!! Leave Blue Ivey alone as well as all the other children and adults who choose to wear their hair this way.
Blue Ivy reminds me of Bobbi Christine. She’s gonna have to grow into her looks. lol
what the heck is going on in this thread, lol? That’s my last visit to this topic.
Well Im done with this topic people MOVE ON !
Can we not talk about Blue Ivy’s hair because I can care less about a kids head. She is cute and she looks more and more like her dad. Thats ALL I have to say.
Someone did respond to that person’s comment. But honestly, that comment is not worth anyone’s time because the person is obviously ignorant.
I agree that calling your mom insecure was uncalled for. And I am very aware of the “natural hair nazis” and the “black power.” You have every right to feel that way. Some people are just too extreme. But there are other ways to look at this issue as well.
Now, although I do not believe that your mom’s statements were coming from a negative place, it seems that her comments got the response because there are many men, women and children who are trying to embrace themselves and are trying very hard to accept their hair for what it is, in it’s true nature rather than hiding it, or defining it in order to make it appear what it is not just for acceptance and the list goes on.
So when your mother wrote these statements, “It’s not ok for a little girl to walk around looking like a brush hasn’t touched hair since she’s been born.” And…..“My daughter has course hair and can hold curls beautifully.” A lot of those people took offense to that because it was insulting to them. They took it as her bashing someone else’s efforts to let their hair be especially since it was a toddlers hair style and especially since there are MANY women who wear their hair this way. They took it as if Mrs T was implying that carefree hair or hair in it’s truest form with little to no manipulation is not acceptable because it looks too dry, unkempt and that defined hair is more acceptable.
When Mrs.T stated that her daughter had course hair and that she can keep a curl beautifully, along with everything she stated, that statement seemed as if she was implying that if course hair can be tamed then anyone can tame or define their hair for it to look presentable and acceptable. So people will take offense to that.
This natural hair movement in this capacity is still fairly new and it seems to continue to grow so their are still many things that people are very sensitive about due to all the years of abuse, conditioning and lack of self acceptance. People will take offense to things that was not even meant to be an insult but this is all part of the process due to this shift in change, because like I said, this movement is fairly new. Things will take time to get better so until such time, in order to bring about progress it will be of great benefit to us all if we are all be mindful of what we say. If we want to see better, we should all do better in a more peaceful, and respectful manner no matter the differences in opinions. Don’t assume, don’t judge, knowledge is power, accept that people are different and have their OWN set of standards that they live by vs imposing it on others and be more open minded to different ideas and the way others choose to live their life.
Thank you for the intelligent response. When I made the comment about my daughter’s hair I was expressing that I have three women in my house all natural all different textures so I’m very aware of different textures. I apologize if people feel like this natural hair look is a movement or new because its not. Obviously people have read too deep in my comments and I will not change what I said about a combing a little girls hair. So I’m a well educated black woman that feels my hair doesn’t define me I’m not pushing my standards its just what I feel. If you don’t stand for something you will fall for anything. I will keep embracing my natural hair and I will teach my daughters being a black woman our STANDARS have to be high because I’m a black woman in America. If I don’t comb my daughters hair for one day it hurts her. I’m just saying what happens in my home. I will stick to my response about combing hair. If women feel so strong about standards get off of youtube with hair routines, stop spending hundereds of dollars on hair products, stop posting hair dues, and embrace yourself instead of your hair.
When I stated the natural hair movement being new I meant in terms of the rate at which it is growing in America. There is an insanely large amount of women who never knew their hair or even seen their natural texture because they were relaxed since they were toddlers. There were women who were encouraged to embrace other people’s standard vs their own(the straight look vs their own texture). There were women with issues, who hated their natural hair. And on the other hand, there were those who never had an issue with self acceptance or natural hair, they just wore it straight, wore wigs and weaves or relaxed it due to convenience and there were some that just simply had no patience or any idea how to care for their hair, so they did what they knew and what was encouraged. Many of these same women are now embracing their hair, this is why I say the movement is fairly new in this capacity. Hope that makes sense.
As far as your comments on standards, nothing is wrong with sticking by your standards but their is more to life than the standards of beauty, hair and the likes, so just because some people tend to shy away from the neat, sleek, tamed standards of beauty just know that these people who prefer the care free, low maintenance approach have standards in other areas of their lives that may be far more important than aesthetics. So we can’t assume that these people have no standards.
Yes there are some women who talk against pushing standards on others and they themselves care for their hair and put in a lot of time and effort, make videos and the likes but what they are trying to say is that, yes they do these things but that does not mean that everyone else has to do the same. They make videos showing that there are various ways to care for your hair especially for those who have no idea how to care for hair. That’s the purpose of these sites and videos. How Beyonce or anyone else chooses to style their hair and or their children’s hair is their concern and their right as long as the child is happy and healthy. Wearing tamed, sleek, define hair and or free, un-manipulated hair in all it’s natural glory is not the only thing that defines one character, and so it does make it right for others to judge, criticize or assume that it is unkept. And it all depends on how the viewer chooses to see that person and their hair.
You seem to stress the importance of combing hair everyday to avoid being tender headed and I respect that. It’s different for everyone. I am tender headed but only when my hair is overly manipulated with tension on the strands, so I wear low manipulation styles that minimize tangles and I only do full detangles on wash days. There are always ways around things. Does that mean that my hair is unkept? It may look that way to some because some days I embrace my frizz and others days depending on the occasion I minimize the frizz. But I never let other people and their standards of what my hair should look like get to me and I am always aware that it is not so easy for others. My standards on beauty(hair) is that as long as you aren’t hurting yourself or anyone else, as long as you, your scalp and hair are healthy, as long as you are confident in yourself then the way one chooses to style their hair should not be of concern to anyone. You live by your own standards and let me live by mine.
Well its been good and a learning experince to express my views on a website like this its my first and last. No matter how I try to justify my comments its not enough so do your hair don’t do your hair its whatever. So for everybody who’s in the so call “movement” Love yourself, Love God, Love your hair and just do you with no regets.
Sorry you feel this way. I can appreciate sites like this because no matter how important or trivial the subject may be, there is always room to learn something new. And I want you to know that I was able to understand your point of view after this discussion and what I took from it was that everyone has their own definition and standards of beauty and that’s ok as long as you don’t try to impose it on others. I don’t necessarily agree with everything you’ve stated but it was great that we were able to peacefully engage in discussion and that is what matters.
I also understand that due to the sensitivity of the subject, people may sometimes read too much into things but that does not mean that it has to turn into something negative. It just means that instead of turning on combative mode, we should all try to hear each other out no matter the differences in opinions and peacefully agree to disagree if necessary.
Sites like these were meant to be a positive source for anyone who is interested in understanding afro textured hair. The bashing, the judgment and assumptions are the faults of the people who choose to express themselves in that manner. This site encourages black people to look beyond what they were once taught and to challenge assumptions, the good, the bad and indifferent. To embrace what you have vs working against it and it show cases people from all walks of life with various textures. Isn’t that a good thing? It also opens up the space for discussions like ours, that way we can learn from each other. I really hope that this does not discourage you from engaging in other conversations even if there are differences in opinions.
I guess it’s all about perspective. It’s what you choose to make of your experience.
I learned that people will drop low to say people are insecure based on the comment that it’s not ok for a girl to walk around this way. It’s my opinion it’s my thoughts. To tell me I can’t embrace or empower black girls because I comment on a toddler’s hair. I have a daughter a month younger than blue Ivy and an older daughter. I comment on hair that to ME once again I repeat TO ME was inappropriate. If you knew my background of profession I see a lot of things inappropriate that are life changing and dangerous for young black girls and young black women and I would NEVER tell a black girl that she should feel insecure or powerless because of her hair. Impose means to tell someone else their standards are nothing and they need to accept my standards and I never said that. I just said what I didn’t think was ok what I THINK not what she should do. The fact that hair is a sensitive subject is a sad thing because what I see in my profession is a sensitive subject, so sorry that I can’t relate to not be obsessed about my hair. I was enjoying the discussion until someone more than one person called me insecure take a walk in my shoes and they will see I’m far from insecure. If this website helps people that is a great thing, but I apologize hair doesn’t and it will never define ME and if any woman feels the opposite I respect that. Once again I said ME I can embrace empowerment of the black women, I can embrace encouraging my daughter and young girls to embrace being different shades of brown, I can embrace my daughters and young black girls to embrace their natural selves but I will NEVER embrace tearing black women down. I’m my profession I have to embrace different of opinions and different views I must stay opened minded. But us black women need to embrace each other not tear each other down especially not over hair. Truth is truth but insults are not ok. Her hair looked a certain way to me and I’m entitled to think that, I’m entitled to say combing your hair is ok, I’m entitled to say a hair looks dry, but I will not tolerate someone tearing down my character that I take seriously. I will still look at the website because I learn a lot about taking care of my hair but now knowing what type of people engage in the comments I will pass on commenting on subject matters.
I’m responding to your last comment below. I didn’t see the reply button which is why I’m responding here.
I hear you Mrs T and I can tell that you were bothered by that the comment about you being insecure. That was wrong of that person to assume.
The majority of the other comments were coming from people that were solely responding to how they understood your comment, not attacking your character, it was nothing personal. You did not come off disrespectful in any way but your comment offended some. Now just because your comment offended people does not necessarily mean that you are negative and that your statement came from a bad place, I understand that. It’s just that people will ALWAYS have a different outlook on things and that’s ok too, we can’t control that. Words are funny, especially on the internet, so you never know how someone will interpret your words. We can only control how we respond, to make it right and how we choose to look at it.
All I can say is that there are many people out there on these sites that are willing to engage in healthy discussion. Not everyone is out there to judge and attack. So don’t feel bad about voicing your opinions. It’s about your intent and it does help for us to be very mindful and very clear about what you say. In your last comment, you expressed yourself much clearer than before so I now have a better understanding of where you were coming from. See what healthy dialogue can do? You did not come off as if you were imposing your beliefs compared to your older comments. Some people come with their thoughts as if their opinions are the gospel, without any room to see someone else’s point of view, those are the people that are closed minded. Conversations like these taught me to be mindful of what I say while still saying how I truly feel.
All the best to you and yours 🙂
Its best to leave a little of your hair out anourd your face so they can blend it with the weaved hair for a more natural look. It will look a little bad if you have every peice of your hair sewn in- just tell them to blend what is anourd your face with the weave and maybe a row in the back at the very bottom so you can wear your hair up if you would like. Its done by braiding small thin cornrows and then sewing the weave into it. The weaved hair is held together by a peice of cloth which it is sewn and glued into. They keep this peice really tiny and then and then sew that into your cornrows.Or something like that . best of luck
BLUE IVY IS RICH YOU I….T AND IF YOUR DAUGHTERS HAIR HURTS ITS NOT HER HAIR ITS PROBABLY AN ABSENT FATHER!!! YOUR JUST JEALOUSE BECAUSE BEYONCE BELIEVES A CHILD SHOULD BE JUST THAT A CHILD ..YOUR PROBABLY THAT COLOUR PURPLE TYPE WHO RIP THERE KIDS HAIR EVERY MINUTE TO PLEASE THE WHITE MASTER, (as you said “a black woman in America)YET YOU STILL HAVE TO DRINK FROM SEPERATE TAPS EMOTIONALLY!STANDARDS MY AR.SE, WITH YOUR SLAVE STANDARDS STOP EATING THE PIGS FEET, GRITS AND GO ON A RAW FOOD DIET THAT’S STANDARDS BECAUSE YOUR CHILDRENS HAIR AND FAMILY DNA WILL CHANGE FOR THE BETTER STANDARDS??? SL….VE …B….!
I’m clrearly adressing the women that called my mother insecure and that she should not stand for black girl power just because she said the child’s hair does not looked combed yes this website is clearly bias and the women are making bias comments because these are women who are obviously for natural hair so someone makes a comment against natural hair and 50 differnet comments follow about how inscure she must be and how my mother is pushing “standards” because of her comments sorry but putting all those things in your hair is standards if you really want to go there and no I don’t like these “natural hair ,black hair ” websites because these women bash women that are not for “natural hair” or don’t wear their “natural hair ” or embrace and accept their “natural hair” and its not right I see these comments about blue ivy being “ugly” how come no one is bashing and judging them and calling them insecure sorry there is no reason why grown women are saying things like that
I’m her daughter and you grown women are here talking about standards if standards was really the issue get off the wesbites and get off youtube putting on hour long videos about you women putting your entire seaoning cabnit and fridge in your hair just to keep it looking fresh and natural sorry but I doubt any of you so called grown women would go out the house without touching it at all no one was criticizing the baby she was making a comment on beyonce’s lazyness if that is really a probelm then you women saying all these rude things are insecure about your nappy heads don’t judge and be rude to a woman about expressing her feelings your comments are rude irrelevant and very close minded and I hate these stupid bias websites get a life and maybe you guys need some standards its 2014 get it together this is sad do you guys know beyonce if not you women need to stop being bias and ignorant
Interesting….And this is suppose to add to the discussion how?
I am confused by this comment because I’ve read all the replies to your mom and no one was disrespectful. They just simply shared their thoughts on your mother’s comment, just like your mother did and just like you are doing now. So what exactly are you saying?
You say that the comments to your mom was “rude and irrelevant and close minded, then you went on to say that you “hate these stupid bias websites get a life and maybe you guys need some standards.”
You are doing the very same thing you are complaining about as well as continuing to impose your way of thinking(standards) on everyone else.
Then you stated,”do you guys know beyonce, if not you women need to stop being bias and ignorant.”
Wow, so you claim that your mother was only commenting on beyonce’s laziness? Then you have the nerve to try and trivialize your mom’s statement like it was nothing…
Hmm…but are you not just as ignorant by making assumption that Beyonce is lazy especially about someone you do not know? Why does a preference in hair style automatically make someone lazy?
You are the one obviously being biased and ignorant because if you read through most of the comments replied to your mother you would see that most of the comments were stressing the issuing of people with their assumptions, and the habit of one imposing their standards on another. Tell me exactly what was said that was wrong. No one is judging your mothers character or attacking her. This is just an open forum and most of us dislike the fact that people aren’t as open minded as they claim to be.
These were the points trying to be made.
1. Afro textured hair is extremely dry by nature. For some of us, no matter how much moisture we apply it may still appear dry. So when people judge and assume that the hair is unkempt you should expect a response.
2. A style preference does not always equal laziness. Some people prefer the carefree look, some people rather spend more time on things they feel is more important.
3. My sister has 4a hair and she literally wakes up, shakes fluff and go. She has other standards that she spends most of her time cultivating not living up to your standards of having super neat, divined curls.
4. Some people try but their efforts are not seen due to assumptions. You see dry hair, others see beauty in is true form.
5. It is not about Beyonce, no one cares about that. It could have been anyone else’s child. It’s the principle. People are quick to jump to conclusions with no basis and they are quick to criticize and judge and impose their standards on others rather than accepting the fact that it’s different strokes for different folks.
6. There is a difference between constructive criticism and criticism that is coming from a place of judgement, ignorance and assumptions.
5. To be open minded is to be able to entertain all thoughts and or ideas even if you disagree. To present your thoughts to the table without preconceived notions, biases, prejudice. To engage in meaningful, respectful discussion with the purpose of coming to some type of understanding and or resolution.
6. Practice what you preach.
7. Assumptions make a fool out of you and me.
What the…. o_O
ever heard of a period (.) ? i know you didn’t want to overdo it but it’s great to use one every now and then. don’t be shy now!
Blue Ivy and Jay Z have the exact same eyebrow scowl! haha. He definitely has some dominant genes flowing through him. They look like a happy little family.
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She looks just like her father. Lil’Jay-Z with a wig on.
so are these folks content now that the child’s hair looks “done” (aka= defined curls)? rock on, divas!
Blue Ivy is one ugly kid….if she wasnt a rich kid nobody would give her pie face a 2nd look!
So you see, this is what it’s like to live in a free country where everyone has a right to their opinions. No matter how harsh, rude, judgmental or arbitrary the opinion, people always feel the need to be heard.
Assumptions, and it is my right to be heard when I call Truth Hurts an ignorant *sshole. Just another opinion. If one feel the need to post ignorant, rude comments, be prepared to live with the consequences. This is just bullying. If this was done face to face, in school, there would be consequences. Please find better things to do with your time than promoting ignorance and bullying. I bet you think this falls under the First Amendment… NOT.
And Knon, it is my right to agree with you on this one!
..how…could you call a kid ugly?…not even just a kid… another human being… i mean… what if that had been a candid shot of your own child or little sister or something and someone made a similar comment… im not saying… its bad to have your opinions…but.. think of how those opinions can hurt other people 🙁 ah..btw..i also dont want to seem harsh..but.. this is a natural hair site…if you thought the hairstyle didnt suit the child, then say so in a respectable way.. why use harsh words to describe the physical features of a TWO year old.. sigh, maybe your mind might be warped in a way to not even understand the degree to which a comment like that may be seen as reprehensible
Because this nasty truth hurts was called ugly, infact to call a child ugly makes that person EVIL Truth hurts you are EVIL.
I think this is the realist opinion of little Blue I’ve ever, ever read! You have the right to your opinion, but I must disagree, I think she’s a cuter (much) version of her dad. I just honestly wish they’d moisturize/brush/comb/something to her hair so it doesn’t look so unkept. Bey doesn’t step out like tbat, so why can’t she ensure her dahghter doesn’t either? #jmo
i respectfully disagree w/ your opinion 🙂
And you’re probably an EXPERT on not getting a second look. *snickers*
Everybody needs to relax actually to say people have insecurities because they commented on a hair due is insane. I thought we were adults. I’m disappointed be the honest true I don’t care if it blue or any other baby. I have of you women seen a white woman walking with a little black girl and hair was like this everybody would have something to say about that white woman. I’ve seen it and heard it with my own ears. Ladies get over yourselves and stop degrading each other over comments. Black Girls Rock! I teach my girls and youngs girls to love themselves natural and all. SMH
I don’t care, I disagree when they criticize those white women. Either they can give helpful advice in a polite way or butt out. Degrading these moms over HAIR is not anymore helpful than the so-called degrading comments here that you’re so sensitive to. There’s nothing wrong with Blue Ivy’s hair, so if you want to promote the idea that “Black Girls Rock” start with yourself and stop putting our little girls’ (all of our little girls) hair down.
How is over analyzing the natural state of a baby’s hair promoting understanding and self love?
Erykah Badu is the shit, soooo she can pretty much do what she wants to do. Anything she does is creative.
Blue Ivy is adorable and her curly hair is cute. We don’t know how Beyonce cares for her daughter’s hair nor should we know. It’s no one’s business. For every person denigrating her hair, I’d like to see how their child’s hair is (or, rather their hair, period.) Take your insecurities and keep them on you, if you will.
Erykah, do you. I must admit I’m not a fan of the style, but it’s your right to rock your hair the way you want.
her hair seems to be in great healthy shape to me. I’m always shocked by the criticism, but black ppl I think always go with what they’re used to. They’re used to seeing young black girls with their hair constantly braided, and are pushing those expectations onto Blue Ivy. If I were Beyonce, I would keep it moving and not give a damn. Blue’s hair is probably much more moisturized and easier to comb through than a lot of the haters’ AND their own children’s.
I find it so interesting that the same people who write about Blue Ivy, a baby, as if she’s a celebrity, are the same ones who get upset when this baby is talked about and attacked like a celebrity. Besides Suri Cruise, I’ve never seen other celebrity babies followed and talked about like Blue Ivy is. The stans complain when this baby is attacked, yet you all worship and stan for a two year old like she’s a grown woman of accomplishment. There is no reason for this baby girl to be talked about on blogs like she is. Both the nasty attacks and the fawning over this 2 year old is sick.
And do you think that if she was the child of your everyday parent that people won’t make these same comments? It’s the principle. It has nothing to do with who the parents are, people will judge and criticize regardless. People always feel the need to impose their preconceived notions, assumptions and standards on others. Whatever they deem acceptable everyone else must be in favor too.
I agree Mrs.T it seems like people are not entitled to have their own opinions anymore. Everyone does not have to like how she styles or doesn’t style her daughter hair. Does not make them a hater. I think that’s why people call Beyonce’s fans stans because if you don’t always agree with her choices you’re a hater. Beyonce can do what she wants with her child’s hair and people can have their own opinion about it. Some will like it, some will not. It’s ok to disagree and to respectfully disagree without name calling or taking it personal as if you know the celebrity yourself. Goodness. Be blessed everyone!
Bri and Mrs. T, I totally agree! An opinion opposite yours is ok and people who disagree are not haters. Negative opinions are a natural outcome of a discussion and people need to accept that.
Just because you have opinions does NOT mean that others will not have opinions about your opinions. I am natural, and when I use rods, my hair looks the same. My hair is think,healthy, and moisturized. Just because people point out that in stating some opinions, people have NO idea what they are talking about, does not mean they are haters. I call the constant scrutiny about a 2 year old’s look the closest thing to hate that I;ve seen in a long time. Keep in mind, this is MY opinion.
See, you have opinions about Blue Ivy’s hair. And people have opinions about your opinions of Blue Ivy’s hair.
On this planet, having an opinion doesn’t protect you from people responding. People thinking that attacking Blue Ivy’s hair is petty and stupid is ALSO an opinion that people are allowed to have.
See how it works? “Having opinions” doesn’t begin and end with YOUR opinion. You don’t have to be a “Bey stan” to know that. It’s called maturity.
Not too surprise to see the harsh criticisms on Blue ivy’s hair. Many Black women still hate their “Natural hair”. I mean it is black women that encouraged or forced their young to get relaxers at young ages in the name of having more “manageable hair”. Even when natural, the goal for many is to be have a certain curl pattern (no kinks just want curls)… Even among many naturals 4b or 4c is still the least preferred hair. ..shoot many people go natural hoping to find that they have 3c or 4a curls..Shrugs.. Bottom line, I love that Beyonce is still just doing her and not changing her maintenance of her child’s hair as she seems fit. Some of you probably not combing your own child’s hair. Worry about your own problems instead of criticizing someone else’s’…Oh and news flash, many naturals struggle with dry hair, so what Blue hair appears dry? Especially since she is a child, are those of you criticizing reasoning that it is more important for a mother to care so much about a young girl’s hair then her having fun and playing? ….SMh Priorities of some
Not at all. Blue has a beautiful grade of hair. This is not about “self-hate”, this is about seeing a beautiful little girl walking around w/ dry, tangled, knotted hair. This is completely unacceptable- moreso w/ Blue because of who her mother is. It’s one thing to see Keisha’s daughter, in the projects, running around w/ dry tangled hair, it’s another to see a millionaire, who makes sure her own lacefronts are top dollar, have a daughter looking like this. It is honestly comparable to seeing a toddler w/ dirty, broken down shoes, while their mother is dressed to the nines in new gear. I just can’t/won’t cosign this, and I will continue to be vocal about my disdain
Are some people seeing what other’s can’t see? they say it looks dry, tangled and matted, i say the picture isn’t clear enough, and we don’t know what the exposure on the camera or what lighting the picture. i guess it depends on your mindset what your first thought is when you look at her hair because i don’t think this little girls hair is unkempt and neither am i someone who doesn’t know the difference between unkempt hair and groomed. this is the kind of hair i love on kids, not relaxed not weaved and not edgeless barely 2 years into this world. if the hair had had a loser curl pattern and left to roam free like that, we wouldn’t have as much calls to Beyonce to be ashamed of herself for not slapping a bit of gel in and pulling her daughters hair into a ponytail that could at least hide her texture a bit.
First of all, it’s not dry and tangled, those are curls. Second, if this topic is THAT important to you, you have my sympathy.
Signed “NOT A BEY PERSON”
Wow…Dry, knotted, tangled hair?? Are we seeing the same photo? Then you compare it to dirty, broken down shoes?! Wow…
What if it turns out that just before that photo, beyonce finger combed her hair and added moisturizer and because her hair is naturally curly, it shrunk up and what you see in that photo was the result? Then what would you have said?
Like I said before in a previous comment, there are hair textures that no matter how much moisture you apply, it still “appears” dry but when you touch it, it feels amazing. But since it appears so dry on the surface should that person limit their style choices, like wearing their hair down, afro puffs etc, so that people won’t assume that the hair is dry, knotted, unkept and such?
Now to combat the dry look, one can always opt for the gels or the curl defining products and thats ok but what if that’s not the look that is desired, then what? What is that person left with?
They are left with their hair in all it’s glory. Their that as is, the way it grows from it’s scalp. If the hair and scalp is healthy why should anything else matter. This is the point.
Like I stated, we have all been natural long enough to differentiate between the textures of moisturized coils, and hair that hasn’t seen a comb, water, or oil in days.
Have you ever considered that maybe Beyonce possibly prefers this natural carefree look and the only reason why beyonce continues to wear her own hair in those styles is because it is part of her act or she may not be ready yet, who knows? She is an entertainer and her hair is one of the things that she has been known for. Why do we always have to assume the worse just because it’s a high profile celeb?
“It is honestly comparable to seeing a toddler w/ dirty, broken down shoes, while their mother is dressed to the nines in new gear. I just can’t/won’t cosign this”
This is apples and oranges. You clearly despise blue’s hairstyle preference and that’s fine. But why do you have to compare it to such things. This is a hair style by choice for many people, not just Blue. I think it’s a little harsh that you said that. If the child is healthy and happy as well as her hair scalp then why should the style matter?
Unless you’ve actually styled Blue’s hair and or seen it up close in person, how can you assume that it’s dry, matted and unkept. You are only looking at photos which you feel is enough to come to these conclusions?
What is difference between someone with naturally shiny, straight or a very loose texture of wavy/curly hair, who always wear their hair down or loose pony tails vs someone with naturally dry, tight curls, kinkier, frizzy, afro texture who always wear their hair out and in loose ponytails as well, with just simply a moisturizer, no defining products or over manipulation more like a 4a/b/c type of hair. Both hair types are clean, healthy and detangled. What will be the difference?
I am really curious to hear “The gypsy life” respond to some of these post especially this one. This may explain her thought process and or true intentions.
Simple. Loose hair is largely perceived as more acceptable than it’s counterpart.
Exactly! That is the problem….. Why does it have to be so? Why are people still walking around with this type of mentality? And it’s mainly black people! In an ideal world where people were not conditioned it would be perceived as just a different hair type… As long as its clean and healthy who cares how it’s styled? SMDH. Will we ever get to this point?
And the sad part is that people accept this. People are conditioned to believe that this is the standard. Tight, super kinky haired folks CANNOT style/wear their hair out freely like that of their counterparts, even if they choose to or else it is considered unkept, ugly, inappropriate, unacceptable. IF it isn’t thoroughly detangled its matted, dry, tangled etc etc….It never ends…..
Who taught us to think this way? Where did we learn these standards? Does anyone ever think about this? People are more concerned with what the surface appears to be vs what goes on in their minds…..Yes other races and or ethnicities tend to criticize our hair too but no one does it more than black folks. Will this type of mentality ever change?
This is obviously beyond hair, beyond Beyonce and Blue. This is about one’s mentality.
Have you run your fingers through or better yet, tried combing the child’s hair to KNOW whether or not her hair it’s dry, tangled or knotty? At the end of the day, even if Beyoncé were a “Keisha” from the projects, fresh to death, lace fronts and all, it is SHE who must deal with the way that she has HER child looking. You are taking these pictures on face value. You truly have no idea and unfortunately your post comes across as self-hate while trying to give it in a light, fluffy form.
I love Blu’s hair and I love the fact that Bey is not making her look like the average little girl.
Obviously I offended a lot of people on the natural hair website, so I will just twist my afro and move on. I just thought comments were allowed everybody have a blessed day.
Of course comments and differences in opinions are allowed and rightfully so. That is definitely not the issue. How else would be have meaningful dialogue? How else would we learn and grow if we don’t challenge assumptions and look at all sides of the issue? The problem is that people feel compelled to not only express their preconceived notions and or assumptions but to also impose their standards on others. When you come on here with opinions that are based on assumptions while telling someone how they should or shouldn’t wear their hair that is where the issue is. Since we have limited information on whether or not her hair was actually dry or not cared for, why assume the worse? Since we all know that afro hair is deceiving, it may appear dry but it may be quite the opposite, so why jump to conclusions?
These were your words: “It’s not ok for a little girl to walk around looking like a brush hasn’t touched hair since she’s been born.” This seems to be an example of you not only insulting her appearance and the possible efforts that her parents put into caring for her hair but also imposing your standards of what you deem acceptable on another.
But how does one differentiate? Giving an opinion IS essentially judging/making assumptions based on YOUR standards. This is a blog that is supposed to encourage free-thought. Not everyone thinks it’s ok for a child to have unkempt hair- because that IS what Blue’s hair looks like. We’ve all been natural long enough to differentiate a dry, knotted, matted fro, from a fro that has been combed/finger detangled and moisturized. Having a high profile mother shouldn’t make Blue- nor her mother- free from critiscms and opinions. I don’t know what the logic is for why Beyonce keeps Blue’s hair the way that she does, but I do know that, in MY opinion, it does look unkempt and not neat at all
You act like just because you express an opinion, that no one can criticize that opinion. Just as you criticize this little girl, we can criticize you in doing so. No one called Angelina Jolie’s kids ‘unkempt’, when she let their natural tresses flow through the early years. She did the same with her Black child, and she was under attack. I applaud B for not bowing down to the pressures of trying to making 4 grade hair look like 3 grade. Natural hair is acceptable AS LONG as you can style it so it looks like you have some sort of ‘mixture’. This is still a form of self hatred. You can clearly see soft curls in her hair in other pictures. A 2 year old child is not there to foster your insecurities. And YES, this IS an OPINION!
I agree- please, critique on. And yes, folks were ANGRY about Angelina Jolie’s daughters hair, there were nothing but contemptuous comments about why they won’t hire a black person to do Zahara’s hair. Regardless, this isn’t about Zahara, the topic is Blue- and her hair, looks unkempt. You can disagree with my opinion, critique to your heart’s content, but please do not attempt to shame ANYONE for expressing an opinion on the topics at hand
“But how does one differentiate? Not everyone thinks it’s ok for a child to have unkempt hair- because that IS what Blue’s hair looks like.”
There are some people who are so closed minded and judgmental to the point that they believe that their “opinion” is the gospel. They are not willing to at least entertain other ideas and or thoughts, simply hear other perspectives. Instead, they present their opinions as if it is the end all be all. That is the issue. Nothing is wrong with disliking blue’s hair, if it “appears” to look unkept to you, that’s just YOUR opinion and that’s fine, keep it moving. But to assume that it is actually unkept and then proceed to tell the parents how they “should” style their hair is where the issue is.
There are hair textures that no matter how much moisture you apply, it still appears dry but when you touch it, it feels amazing. But since it appears so dry on the surface should that person limit their style choices so that people won’t assume that the hair is unkept?
“Having a high profile mother shouldn’t make Blue- nor her mother- free from critiscms and opinions. I don’t know what the logic is for why Beyonce keeps Blue’s hair the way that she does, but I do know that, in MY opinion, it does look unkempt and not neat at all”
Well for me, it has nothing to do with Beyonce, I’m not a fan so this is coming from an unbiased place. It could have been any other child and I would feel the same way. I see children and adults wearing this style all the time and I never think much of it. It’s just simply their preference. Not everyone cares for the super sleek, neat look and not everyone is into the low manipulation, simple, care free, messy, fun/wild look and its ok! If Beyonce chooses not to over saturate her daughter’s strands with product to appease everyone then let it be. Her hair is what it is and as long as the child is happy, and has a healthy scalp and healthy hair that is all that should matter in my opinion. Neat hair vs un-manipulated simple hair is all just simply style choices.
It’s hilarious how you interpreted my comment as “gospel”. Reading comprehension is a must 🙂 To reiterate, just in case you were unable to understand my “ignorant” opinion, I think Blue’s hair is unkempt, and I don’t care- nor do I know- why her mother styles it the way that she has chosen to. No one on this thread, that has unfavorable opinion of Blue’s hair, has attempted to convince anyone why/what Beyonce should do with her hair. What they are arguing, or defending, are her “fans” or fanatics that seem to have an attitude towards words and difference of opinion. If you think her hair looks fine, ok, great. The problem lies when you attempt to come at me or other posters for having a difference of opinion.
You stated, It’s hilarious how you interpreted my comment as “gospel”. Reading comprehension is a must 🙂 To reiterate, just in case you were unable to understand my “ignorant” opinion
Condescending much? You asked a question and I gave you a generalized answer. I never once said that YOUR opinion was ignorant because that is not how I feel. I accept the fact that you dislike the look. That is not the issue. Please practice what you preach.
I previously wrote, “There are some people who are so closed minded and judgmental to the point that they believe that their “opinion” is the gospel. They are not willing to at least entertain other ideas and or thoughts” etc…..
Look at the key words that are used in my statement above.” Some” “They” their.” It was a generalized statement about those who made statements on other sites and specifically this thread such as,…Beyonce is a hypocrite, she is lazy, “she can use oil and water” assuming that her wasn’t moisturized and “no one should walk around with their kids hair looking like that.” With the word” should”, is that not implying that beyonce needs to do something else with her child’s hair, other than what it currently looks like, just because it appears a certain way to them? Maybe I am wrong and I am humble enough to accept that.
You stated, “What they are arguing, or defending, are her “fans” or fanatics that seem to have an attitude towards words and difference of opinion.”
Well as I stated in my previous comments. I couldn’t care less who the child’s parent was. I am not a beyonce fan, never bought her music, just isn’t my cup of tea. So my humble thoughts and opinions are coming from an unbiased place. It has nothing to do with Bey but all to do with the mentally of some.
You stated, “The problem lies when you attempt to come at me or other posters for having a difference of opinion.”
I will be the first to admit if I have ever taken someone’s comment out of context. But so far, correct me if i’m wrong I have not done that on this thread. I did not come at you or anyone for the differences in opinions, that would be foolish. There are people who have made statements like “I don’t like it, it looks unkept but to each is own” and kept it moving. And there is nothing wrong with that. Why would I have a problem with that?
My only attempt was to stress a possible idea, since this is an open forum, which was that it may “appear” unkept to some but that may not necessarily be the case due to the fact that, it’s just not a preference for many. Her carefree, wild, messy, puff/twa is just beyonce style preference even if it may look unkept to some. There is the simple, carefree styles vs the neat styles. They’re just that, style preferences.
I just wanted everyone to realize that we can all respectfully and peacefully disagree but realize that just because you dislike something, or you are not use to a particular way of things does not mean that we should make all these assumptions about a person due to our lack of understanding, when we don’t even know them. Why assume the worse?
So again. I never had an issue with those who disliked the look or who felt it “appeared” unkept. I had an issue with those who strongly assumed that it was actually unkept. How can you possibly believe this if you do not know Beyonce?
So you have an issue with people coming at you based on differences in opinion. Well, in this case your opinion has no basis because it IS coming from a place of assumptions and uncertainty. Differences in opinion is not the issue, it is one’s intent and how it is presented. You are presenting this opinion as if it is the gospel because you yourself stated…….,” I think Blue’s hair “IS” unkempt, and I don’t care- nor do I know- why her mother styles it the way that she has chosen to.”
I’m sure that you do not know this woman or her child but yet you know for sure that her hair IS unkept? How so? Just because it “appears” this way? Then you went on to say that you don’t know or care why Bey styles it that way? So since you have no idea, why are you assuming that it IS unkept? Why assume the worse?
There is a difference between someone stating the hair APPEARS/LOOKS unkept vs it IS unkept especially when you have never styled or seen the hair in person. The former is only suggesting a possibility or what appears to be, not certainty and the latter IS what they strongly think/believe it to be. Therefore, you are wrong for assuming, you are judging, your comment is ignorant. It is not constructive criticism. It helps to present your opinions with an open mind, accepting the possibility that you can be wrong.
“No one on this thread, that has unfavorable opinion of Blue’s hair, has attempted to convince anyone why/what Beyonce should do with her hair.”
Yes, there were many implications. One lady stated that Blue’s hair was too dry and that it will lead to brittle hair, that not combing hair causes tender scalp, another suggested bey to use water and oil, you implied she was a hypocrite when you made your broken down shoe analogy etc. And anyone who thinks her hair IS unkept, is obviously making this statement based on their own standards of what they deem to be acceptable/presentable hair.
“What they are arguing, or defending, are her “fans” or fanatics that seem to have an attitude towards words and difference of opinion.”
Why do you once again assume that all people who are in favor of blue’s style or those who are just simply against people and their arbitrary, non constructive criticisms, fans/fanatics? Hmmmm….Then you claim these are just your simple opinions yet, in your response to Perception’s post, your tone appears to be condescending and…….. maybe I’m wrong, but something tells me that you are not too fond of beyonce. So I wonder if the intent, opinions are coming from a biased place? I myself am not a fan but I respect her enough like everyone else as a fellow human. I couldn’t care less what she does outside of this issue, in this case it’s about principle.
I also wanted to add I was involved with a very rare alternative school that is extremely diverse. All races/ethnicities from all walks of life and socioeconomic backgrounds. The community and environment is all about embracing our differences, tolerance, individuality as well as community. There are parents from all backgrounds who send their kids to this school with what may appear to you as being unkept in their choice of clothing and hair that may seem dry, knotted, tangled, matted hair but when you speak to most of these parents and these children you will see that what matters most is what is inside of that head. A lot of these families are practical thinkers in that they dress their kids for school, to be comfortable and free not for a fashion show, so they wear park clothes or anything that parents have no issue with getting messy. They come from very happy well adjusted, open minded households. These people value respect, diversity, individualism, character, different perspectives and ideas. Not what “appears” to be on the surface. The focus is cultivating compassionate minds as well as a secure education/bank account for their kids so who cares what the surface appears to be. Live and let live.
As you can see, this goes beyond hair. I hope the message is clear.
Both versions are eluqaly good in their own way. I love how Kelly injected the song with her rock themed power. However, although I think they’re eluqaly good, I like Kelly’s more at the moment simply because I’m still ruined of Adele’s rendition because? it was massively overplayed on the radio.
Passive aggressive.
I can handle it. I love people’s comments and embrace different views that’s the beauty of being people.
How is this a natural hair care site, yet some of you manage to not understand what a kinky/curly twa looks like?
You read my mind!! My hair never looks moisturized and I add moisture daily! Who’s to say what that babies hair is like without ever seeing it in person or touching it!
Now if you’re natural you know that you can learn more about your hair with the touch of a hand than you could ever just by looking at it.
I appreciate everyone justifications but due to the fact its says comment I’m going to express my comment. I love natural I’m natural with thick hair very coarse hair which I love and soft to the touch. My daughter had thick coarse hair and can holds curls beautifully.I don’t care what anyone says I’ve seen many of pictures of her beautiful baby and she is black and beautiful I’m saying what I believe sorry its a free country say what I believe.
And if you express those beliefs publicly, people will respond. If you can’t handle it, keep it to yourself.
Mrs. T says, “My daughter has course hair and can hold curls beautifully.”
That sounds great and I’m sure it looks gorgeous too. Now because you have your set of standards that you live by, everyone else should have the same? You seem to prefer the more tamed, sleek look and again that’s fine. But it appears that at blue ivey’s parents have no desire to manipulate her hair to hold a “curl beautifully” or to maintain super neat hair. They embrace her hair the way it grows from her scalp or it’s just that she’s only 2 and it’s going to be messy so why even try. But because her strands aren’t drowned in products to look weighed down or super moisturized it looks as if her hair is unkept?
You went on to say, “It’s not ok for a little girl to walk around looking like a brush hasn’t touched hair since she’s been born.”
It’s alright to have your preference but that’s the thing. It’s YOUR preference not theirs. But to say that it’s not ok for her to walk around like that based on your standards is where people have the issue. Who are you to say what’s acceptable and whats not? Again, if that is the look they are going for then let them be. If you don’t like it that’s fine but you have no right to tell people how they should wear their hair. It’s more than likely that they are seeing something different from what you are seeing. They probably see a gorgeous curly fro/twa but all you choose to see is unkept hair.
Hahahaha! I love Blue’s expression! Adorable!
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I’m a natural hair woman with two daughter and my baby girl is natural I don’t put bows in her or weave but is everybody making this ok because it Beyonce’s baby sorry dry hair leads to brittle hair. Not coming her hair leads to a very tender headed young lady. My oldest daughter has very thick dry hair if she doest moisturize her hair OH BOY! It’s not ok for a little girl to walk around looking like a brush hasn’t touched hair since she’s been born.
And what makes you so sure that her hair isn’t moisturized or combed on a daily basis? Afro textured hair tends to look dry even with moisturizer. so would you prefer she hide her “dry” locks in a pony tail or braid? Or maybe drown her strands in products to make it appear like something that it’s not?
What makes you think that just because it’s beyonce’s child that it’s ok? I am not a beyonce fan, in fact I have yet to listen to her latest album nor do I care to. It has nothing to do with who’s child it is. She could have been anyone else’s child. It has all to do with people and their assumptions as well as pushing their standards of what is acceptable on others. So what if it “appears” to you, that a brush hasn’t touched her hair since birth, so what? If that’s the look they are going for then let them be. As long as her hair is clean and healthy to her parents standards, then none of our opinions matter.
Wow, so many stans with hurt feelings. wow.
I am not a beyonce fan. I’ve never bought her music and have yet to listen to her latest album. So it has nothing to do with being a fan. My opinions are coming from an unbiased place. I don’t care whose child it is, the point is that why does it matter how any parent chooses to style their child’s hair? Why do people always feel the need to impose their standards of what is acceptable on others? If that is the look they prefer then let them be. Why assume that the child has dry brittle hair? Why assume that her hair is unkept and not combed? Afro textured hair is just that, dry! That’s the nature of our hair, therefore there are some textures that appear so dry and dull that no matter how much you moisturize it, it will still appear dry, but when you touch it you may be surprised at how soft and moisturized it feels. The issue is with people and their worthless, judgmental, arbitrary opinions. It has nothing to do with who the parents are. People are always missing the point, never seeing the bigger picture.
AMEN. I don’t need to add a thing!
I love how Blue is basically saying “talk to the hand” with her gesture LOL. So cute! And a spitting image of her daddy! I hate how there’s been so much talk about her hair literally since her birth. Just let this baby live. Besides, people act like they didn’t pull out every barrette & rubber band their mom put in their hair when they were little girls, and get all messy with the hair. It’s not that serious.
As for Erykah, it wouldn’t be my first choice, but she rocks it! She’s always so out of the box and free – it’s admirable, really. While I wouldn’t go with this look for myself, I think it looks nice on her! Now, if we could just get a new album…lol
Blue is a cutie pie! I’m all about letting a little girls’ hair be free and fun. I know people who are all about a child’s hair being perfectly in place. My mother can’t stand for my niece’s hair to have one strand out. But you’re only a kid once! As for EB, love her, but not the cut!
Wow, 2 years sure did fly by! Erykah is rockin’ that fade though! Her facial structure is gorgeous, she can wear anything and still kill it!
Ms. Badu is fresh and oh so owning it, the back of the cut is awesome!!!
Sorry not feeling Ms Badu’s hair style.
Wow! Ms. Badu and Little Blue Ivy look fabulous!!
Erica Badu’s efforts to stay relevant are legendary. She’s mad pretty so I can’t see her looking bad with any type of odd haircut.
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Gosh Beyonce is a great Mom I admire her mothering skills. Not many nannies around I see? Wow and she and JZ take that little princess everywhere. She looks like a great mom who gives her daughter so much attention.
I was sitting here with the emronous pit in my stomach getting bigger and bigger and then I saw your post and it made me laugh. It’s another planet man sounds about right!Thanks for making me smile!
It’s been 2 years, already?
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I promise I’m not throwing shade but this has to be the 3rd consecutive time I’ve seen Blue’s hair dry and unkept and mommy looking fabulous. I think she is a beautiful little girl but her beautiful hair looks dry and like no attention had been paid to it at all. A little water and oil would be all that is needed. Again…no shade just being honest. Eryka’s hair is cute and like always she keeps us “Wowed and guessing” what she’ll do next.
To me, I’m happy that Blue Ivy’s hair is not perfectly perfect all the time. It shows that her mom is letting her be a little girl. We all know that little girls’ hair look one way when you leave the house, and as soon as you turn around it looks another way lol!!! I bet if Blue’s hair always looked perfect, Bey would be accused of putting too much emphasis on looks and not just letting the child be.
Exactly! If it’s not one thing it will be another. It’s like people are out their lurking for any opportunity to judge and or criticize.
Some people have naturally drier hair you silly person. There is nothing wrong with that. It doesn’t look dry or greasy to me. I am sure her mom wouldn’t let her go without drinking water. Water gives moisture to the hair, not a ton of disgusting grease! Why do some of you black women insist on tons of grease and bull shit in a persons hair? It doesn’t look dry or “unkempt” I don’t know where you see that? I am not seeing what you are seeing. Plus she is a toddler, toddlers never keep still and Beyonce is actually having fun with her daughter. She is not putting her daughter on display like a doll. She is a person not a doll. Human children mess their hair, they play in the sand and roll around in their yard getting messy. She is being a natural child, playing and enjoying herself. Maybe you want to put stupid bows and bubbles in her hair, but honestly it’s really disgusting and not attractive. Anyone can tell the little girl is a bit of a tom boy. My daughter never kept her bubbles in either. I love Beyonce’s approach to little Blue’s hair and I love her approach to motherhood. She looks like a great mom. It’s funny how some women can ONLY see that the child’s hair is supposedly “messy” yet they don’t see all the time she puts into playing with her daughter and holding her. It is so beautiful to see a Mom love her child as much as Beyonce loves her own child. Anyone can see she adores that baby. She’s rich but she doesn’t ever seem to have tons of nannies around the child, it’s mostly her. She changes her diapers and everything I hear. I am impressed with Beyonce;s mothering skills.
And it’s always people like you who take the conversation and someone’s opinion way to personal. Was it really necessary to use the words “stupid and disgusting?” Did you just turn 2 also?
Look, although I’m sure Beyoncé is a good mom and loves her daughter, you take it to the mat like Beyoncé is your sister or you work for her. Are you her nanny? My point …. Since you’ve used the word “seems” and “I hear”…You don’t really know jack about Beyoncé mothering skills… all… you know is what you see in the news. This a hair forum where people give opinions about….hair, not motherhood. I repeat it’s called an hair opinion and I’m entitled to mine.
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Her hair doesn’t look dry at all. Are you looking at the headband? I was at first but then zoomed in for a closer look. I see those cute curls! She is sooo cute. As for Erykah, she is so fascinating to me. Her do fits her.
She is a child!! She is not ripping the runway! Children are always on the ground rolling and playing in something. Kids get dirty and messy, it’s their nature!! So how do you expect her hair to always stay neat?! What’s the point of even trying to make it look fancy. Even a nice sleek pony tail won’t stay neat for long..It’s like you are looking for something to criticize. And her little head does not need to be constantly styled and manipulated to appease people like you. Her styles are stress free, with little to no manipulation, it does what it wants and it still looks beautiful. Afro textured hair is naturally dry by nature so how do you know that her hair does not contain a moisturizing product?! Thank goodness they are not drowning her strands with gel and curling products to make it look “neat” to appease people like yourself. Get over yourself and get over criticizing her hair.
LOL My hair looks like that all the time, regardless of the “moisture level”. It’s just her texture.
I don’t think there is anything wrong with what you said. Everyone is entitled to there options and you states yours respectfully. Lets not bash each other ladies. I think blue’s hair is fine if it works for her and her parents.
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What an amazing gift! These pics are abloeutlsy precious! The one’s of Luke and Tyler oh my gosh words can not describe. Love you Lisa!!!
A good many valuables you’ve given me.
Beautiful heads of hair, both of them. i really love beyonce’s approach on Blue Ivy’s hair, whilst other toddlers are now edgeless, relaxed or spotting extensions with barely any hair, Blue Ivy is rocking what is truly hers and in a few years i’m sure she would be grateful.
Blue Ivy’s curly fro is awesomely carefree and gorgeous just the way it is. I love it!! I was never really fond of all the excessive bubbles and clips look because it’s uncomfortable for the kids, and the look reminds me of a christmas tree with all the many bubble shapes, colors and such. Also, it’s just too much manipulation and stress on the strands. Less is more, I like it simple and it’s a lot easier on their sensitive little scalp.
I cant even deal with all the cuteness spewing from Blue Ivy!! Those curls look refreshed, beautiful and THICK!! She is definitely her daddys baby!! As for mother Erykah… WERK. I love her energy.