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Are There Hair Double Standards in the Black Community?

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Recently, a post on the Son of Baldwin Facebook page addressed the issue of double standards and grooming/beauty practices within the African American community. A snippet of the post reads as follows:

We say that when black women relax/straighten their hair, color it something other than its natural color, or wear weaves and extensions, they are subsumed by white supremacy and are trying to escape the innate blackness the kink of their hair represents.

We don’t say that when black men wear wave caps to wave our hair…I offer that this is a double standard rooted in patriarchy and sexism…black men deem themselves the sole arbiters of what is or is not black for the expressed purpose of never having to be subject to critical analysis when their own behavior is hypocritical and problematic.

Now, I know some of you might be thinking, “Is this going to be a post pitting black women against black men?” No, it is not. I do, however, want to address an issue that is often glossed over in our discussions of beauty, race and gender.

First and foremost, this post highlights what I think is a pretty obvious double standard: The level of criticism leveled against women who choose to wear weaves or chemically process their hair is nearly non-existent for men who wear S‑Curls and religiously keep their hair “lined up” in order to avoid unkempt (read: displaying natural coils and kinks) hair. There is nothing inherently wrong with these styling preferences among men. The problem arises when similar beauty practices made by women are labeled as “vain”, “materialistic” or indicative of “mental enslavement” to a European beauty aesthetic.  Honest self-reflection within ourselves and towards each other should allow us to be critical but fair and observant yet balanced in how we comment on styling choices.

While the post by Son of Baldwin directly addresses the African American community and black men in particular, the double standards black women face are not unique to our community. Patriarchy, in all of its forms, knows no racial boundaries. You don’t need to be a Woman Studies major to know that across racial and ethnic lines women are subject to greater scrutiny and criticism about their physical appearance than their male counterparts. For black women, however, this scrutiny takes on particularly insidious forms that are rooted in deeply embedded historical and sociological issues. The unbalanced criticism is unfair to all women; but as black women who sometimes engage in beautification practices similar to brothers, it is baffling and sometimes hurtful that we are highlighted as if our choices are unique or anomalous. I’ve heard brothers criticize a woman for wearing a weave who would never mention anything critical to his male friend who uses chemicals to maintain his “waves”. Don’t get me wrong. I certainly don’t want men to begin criticizing their male friends but it is pretty disingenuous to scrutinize women while ignoring the obvious hypocrisy that exists simply due to gender.

Like many of you reading this, I wear my hair in its natural state, so I am not the source of this type of criticism regarding inauthenticity or “fakeness” in my hair practices. Still, I feel that for many women these are simply just beauty decisions. A woman can wear her hair relaxed and be self-assured, confident and comfortable in her blackness. I resent the notion that all sisters with weave or relaxed preferences are mentally enslaved as much as I resent the false notion that men who wear and  S‑curl are less masculine or vain.

In reflecting on this issue, I’ve decided that the next time I hear a brother criticize a sister solely for wearing a weave, I’ll inform him that just because I wear my hair naturally doesn’t mean that I’ll join in or validate his claims. Kindly and in love, I’ll ask him if he criticizes his brothers who have hair practices that are less that “natural”. In response, maybe he’ll brush me off or change the subject. But maybe, we’ll engage in a progressive conversation.

Do you believe that that a double standard exists for hair practices within the black community? Why do you think those double standards exist?

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Ana
Ana
6 years ago

Would a man wearing a wave cap be any different from a women wearing a twist out/braid out/flat twist out or any of the sort? I honestly do not understand why their has to be conflict on such issues as small as hair when we as African Americans still have so much more to worry about…

An
An
6 years ago
Reply to  Ana

A black women with a twist out probably has come to acceptance with her natural hair texture. Most black men “wave” there hair because they do not like is kinky. Black male are not exempt from societies dislike of kinky hair.

Tyki
Tyki
6 years ago
Reply to  An

lmfao how do you know every black woman with a twist out has accepted her own natural hair??

An
An
6 years ago
Reply to  Tyki

Of course their are some black women who still wear their hair stretched styles because they think it is “better” than their own texture. However their are some women like Naptural85 who wear their hair stretched often but do not have a problem wearing their hair in it’s natural state. I’m pretty sure that if Naptural85 saw someone with a afro she, unlike a majority of black males, would not make negative comments about it. Naptural85, Hairscapades and CurlyNikki are all example of the growing amount of black women who often wear their hair stretched but have no qualms about… Read more »

EagleEye
EagleEye
6 years ago
Reply to  Tyki

Lol if black males lived on an island alone they’d love their hair , every last one of them. Not the evil malicious black women ofc because none of us like our hair, it’s all our fault, no both, just ours. Tyki. Tyki. Tyki. You’ve been found out. You’re a black man or something close to it. I can tell by your comments. GO BACK TO ATTEMPTING TO REGISTER TO STORMFRONT for their women even though they don’t want you. What black woman would post that stupid baby picture to prove point about women. That’s a PROVEN TROLL PHOTO. DID YOU GET… Read more »

Ms. Vee
Ms. Vee
6 years ago

I feel like this article is somewhat reaching. The only thing comparable to a black man getting an S‑curl is a black woman getting a perm. When you factor in the stitching of Indian/Asian/European hair to your scalp that’s a whole different story. And yes it is by far a greater adherence to the white standard. Find black men walking around with hair like Brad Pitt and then we can really talk double standards. Also the numbers aren’t even comparable. The average black man is not walking around with an S‑curl. This was common in the 90s but not today.… Read more »

LBell
LBell
6 years ago
Reply to  Ms. Vee

THANK YOU for this. Glad to know I’m not the only one who reacted similarly…I was sitting here wondering once again whether I just wasn’t around enough black people, lol…

ALL of us in the African diaspora, male and female, have been touched by standards that diminish certain features while elevating others. However, the vast majority of people who’ve made the black hair care industry the multimillion-dollar business is it are black WOMEN, not men…because we’re the ones who carry the ADDITIONAL burden of conforming to the same beauty/appearance standards that every other woman on this planet has to carry.

An
An
6 years ago
Reply to  Ms. Vee

“But I think its safe to say the whole hair issue mainly effects us. I mean I have yet to hear a black man tell another “boy you got good hair”.” Black males tend to cut their hair off and forget that they too have natural kinky hair. They love enforce the good hair standard on women. I have heard black males say the “good hair” thing to women. In fact, it plays a large roll in who the black man want to go with (well, that and how light-skinned and mixed the girl is. If black males were exempt from… Read more »

Elle
Elle
6 years ago
Reply to  An

Brava! Perfect post! I agree with every syllable and have absolutely nothing to add.

Iva
Iva
6 years ago
Reply to  An

I agree with An. I think the article is a bit of a stretch HOWEVER black men are not exempt from hair issues, they usually just project them on to women. I’ve heard men say they want “chicks with good hair,” “long haired and light skin (which is a whole other issue)”, and I’ve had a “man” say to me that the reason he doesn’t date black girls is because of their hair (that’s why I had to put man in quotes). On this very site I’ve read a story from a woman whose husband (who had dreads) had a… Read more »

EagleEye
EagleEye
6 years ago
Reply to  Iva

TYKI IS A BLACK MALE. What the heck Tyki? Because black men are apparently children and need to be protected (obviously by women who have done it way to much) and taught everything in their late age. You’re a acting like a victim you need to be taught by someone else because you can not form your own opinions. Is that what you mean Tyki. DO YOU THINK YOU ARE A CHILD? Does that excuse you from wanting to be mixed? I bet you have no hair. I bet my house on it that you are bald as the sidewalk… Read more »

Ms Vee
Ms Vee
6 years ago
Reply to  An

@An I agree with you to an extent. Like i said black men are not 100% exempt. However when black men (starting from childhood) consistently see black women feeling our most beautiful when we are permed and weaved out then they are just as conditioned to believe that closer to European hair is better. And in the process would rather deal with the real deal then the imitation. whether we want to admit it or not when we are walking around with blond and/or Indian yaki we are advertising, to our men, that the beauty of other races is superior.… Read more »

An
An
6 years ago
Reply to  Ms Vee

Those women are beautiful! I love the first one! Unfortunately, I’ve heard many black men say they do not want to go with a black women PERIOD because they want their children to have “light-skinned” babies with “good” hair (SMMHHH…no hair complex my black —.) I’ve heard black males say women like this were “too black to have kids with because they were already dark-skinned and n@ppy headed and wanted mixed babies” (that is a real quote I’ve heard a black man say about the model Jessica White though she is gorgeous).

NubianPrize
NubianPrize
6 years ago
Reply to  An

I have heard the exact same thing since I was a kid in the 60s ! And there’s a story going around that one of the well known rappers has said he doesn’t want any “nappy headed kids”. Back in the Civil rights era there were women saying a lot of black power talking brothers “talked black but slept white”. At some black colleges there was a skin & hair heirarchy like in the Spike Lee movie “School Daze”. I myself have experienced this personally. I’m brown skinned ( think Gabrielle Union) & had a thick head of relaxed (… Read more »

An
An
6 years ago
Reply to  Ms Vee

Also, black men are not babies. We do not teach them our hair is ugly by wearing weaves. They are taught to hate kinky hair from the same place as a black female.

Ms Vee
Ms Vee
6 years ago
Reply to  An

@An

Also, black men are not babies. We do not teach them our hair is ugly by wearing weaves”

Um when we feel most confident and attractive with another woman’s (or horse’s) hair on our head then yes we do. You can’t deny this.

They are taught to hate kinky hair from the same place as a black female”

What place is this pray tell? Is it not in the home that is primarily influenced by black mothers?

Tyki
Tyki
6 years ago
Reply to  An

Yes, you do. Black women re easily convinced that their hair is ugly by ‘white society’ Self victimization at it’s finest. And by wearing other races of women’s hair on their heads, black men think thats hair a black woman should have. Maybe if black women werent so easily convinced, black men would get off this ‘good hair, bad hair’ crap.

An
An
6 years ago
Reply to  An

@ Ms Vee March 1, 2014 9:53 AM “What place is this pray tell? Is it not in the home that is primarily influenced by black mothers?” Black females AND black males grow up in a society where commercial like this are common: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOLUt3qwV9Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjptX0Dexl8 Black males and females BOTH watch these commercials and the BOTH learn that frizzy, not sleek hair is bad. The before pictures in these commercials often resemble natural hair. A black man is not taught to hate his hair exclusively by black women. Everyone is taught frizzy, big hair (which are the characteristics of many black… Read more »

Ms Vee
Ms Vee
6 years ago
Reply to  An

@An

I’m not denying the influence of the media. Because we don’t have our own media ownership we are left to be bombarded with images that don’t reflect us. However.… we cannot ignore the fact that the transmitter of self hate into black children, in many cases, are the black mothers themselves (and I’m referring to children that have no clue about the media).

http://generation‑x.net/viewVideo.php?video_id=1188&title=Nappy_Ass_Hair

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An
An
6 years ago
Reply to  An

@ Ms Vee Of course black children learn from their parent/s. However media has a even larger role in what society deems acceptable. We already agree that their are a lot of self-hating women…but we fail to agree that their is a equal number of males who hate highly-texture hair too. I feel like this is getting off topic. The topic is that the majority of black males also are influenced by the “nappy”-is-bad complex, therefore they either: 1) wear only defined waves because they associate the loose curl pattern with being more European or 2)cut off their hair, pretend the do… Read more »

Ms Vee
Ms Vee
6 years ago
Reply to  An

@An

Like I said, shaving a black males hair off is the equivalent of a black female relaxing out of self-hate;”

Really? Soooo if a black man shaves his hair out of self hate then what do the non-black men do it for? I mean surely they hate their “good” hair by your logic.

An
An
6 years ago
Reply to  An

@Ms Vee March 2, 2014 10:49 AM “Really? Soooo if a black man shaves his hair out of self hate then what do the non-black men do it for? I mean surely they hate their “good” hair by your logic” If I asked you the same question but replaced man with woman and shaves with straightens/weave it would look like this: … Sooo if a black *women *straightens/weaves *her hair out of self-hate then what do the non-black *women do it for? I am sure plenty of posters would not hesitate to say the reason a black women straightening/weaving/altering her texture is different from… Read more »

An
An
6 years ago
Reply to  An

Vee

My response back to you is in moderation.…

EagleEye
EagleEye
6 years ago
Reply to  An

No Miss.Vee. Just no. You black women complex: Black Women Complex: The strange need to accept the projection all the problems of the race on your gender by allowing yourself to be blamed for all the issues in the group. Hair, Thyroids, Crime, Education, Aids, blame black women and black women with this complex are willing to protect the same character who calls them Precious. Black women complex affects black women who pretend ignorance is all their fault and not a 50/50 share. Feels the need to mother every other race ie. Mammy character. Only protects her black sons and neglects… Read more »

Ms. Vee
Ms. Vee
6 years ago
Reply to  An

@EagleEye

0_o Thanks for completely missing the point while simultaneously failing to make one. But hey feel free to direct me to a sentence that insnuated im trying to “mother” others.

NubianPrize
NubianPrize
6 years ago
Reply to  An

I agree! I’m a newly retired teacher & spent my career working in inner city schools & have seen the full effect of this hair double standard & burden we black females have to carry.All you have to do is look at the music videos! The light bright curly headed girls dominate. & are seen as the ideal & it effects kids,especially the boys & how many relate to black females. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve had to read the riot act to BLACK ELEMENTARY SCHOOL BOYS for ridiculing black girls for getting perms ( ” you… Read more »

chalise
chalise
6 years ago

idk if i i can relate to this. i feel kinda outta touch with this issue. my husband doesn’t wear wave caps- just a straight ol’ kinky coily fro that i love dearly and wish he’d grow out (without complaining about how thick it is!)
i can honestly say i wasn’t aware this was an issue 😛

my pretty
my pretty
6 years ago
Reply to  chalise

That’s because it’s not…

An
An
6 years ago
Reply to  my pretty

Why do you guys think most black males have a fade? They cut their hair off because the are ashamed of it. A majority of black males are bald by choice. They are not exempt from societies hatred of kinky hair. If majority of black males had natural hair they would love it on black women.

EagleEye
EagleEye
6 years ago
Reply to  my pretty

Dear My Pretty,

You seem to be educated mature woman.

Why? Just why?

teen perspective
teen perspective
6 years ago

No boy i know has chemically processed hair. Most keep it cut or where afros where they don’t comb there hair literally AT ALL which most naturals girls dont do. Also i get waves from brushing my hair with gel but im a complete natural. From what i know, boys with waves only brush there hair and use a pomade and most dont even use that. i don’t know any guy that chemically processes there hair. Audio wave caps and do rags are basically used the same way satin scarves and bonnets are used by naturals

jasmine
jasmine
6 years ago

say that! by the way, wave caps are NOT synonymous with texterizers… if a man wears his wave cap to sleep to keep his natural waves intact for the next day then what is the issue there? in addition to this — no one says anything about the woman who fades her hair when she big chops & their wears a mans wave cap to solidify her style for the next day.. come on. lets not make issue where there is none. I’ve never seen a man who has a texturizer even WEAR a wave cap — for the mere fact… Read more »

divilin
divilin
6 years ago
Reply to  jasmine

What? Black men have always tried to hide their hair from the 30’s and OOOOONNN!! Now they are just putting that s curl juice and wave cap on. You’re crazy if you believe for one minute that most black men want t o grow their REAL afro out! They won’t because they consider the look unkempt of too militant. Men wore Afros once in history as a trend and then after they’d meet Becky’s mom and dad they stopped wearing in a fro ended up going to the s curl and wave cap. Then they think any black female with… Read more »

An
An
6 years ago

Most black males cut there hair off completely or almost completely and pretend they do not have any. I seen black men in beauty shops request for there beards to be relaxed so it would not appear coarse. Black men press their hair into waves with scarves so it will appear “good” they won’t have to see it kinky. Stop dreaming ladies. Black men are not exempt from societies dislike of kinky hair. If they loved their hair so much they would not negatively comment on Black women’s.

EagleEye
EagleEye
6 years ago

Okay “teen perspective” ,

Bonnets are to protect the hair from breaking “NOT TO GET DAT CURL ON”.
Waves caps are for waves and intended for waves hence the term.

Sincerely,
Not a teen

NubianPrize
NubianPrize
6 years ago

This is much ado about nothing. We have far more serious issues in the black community than some silly nonsense over a hair double standard. I’m natural & know guys who do wave caps. SO WHAT ! It’s their hair & they can do as they please just as I can. Here we have Trayvon Martin & Jordan Davis shot dead by bigots & trying to get away with it , college kids putting nooses around statues, black kids still killing each other in the streets , schools in black areas are underfunded & there’s a school to prison pipeline… Read more »

Kiki
Kiki
6 years ago
Reply to  NubianPrize

Interestingly enough, I work in the school system and see hair and education intersect.

Some young girls in high school actually stay home from school if they are in between weaves to avoid being seen without their hair done. They’ll rather fail the class than come to school looking “ratchet.” And yes, the parents are aware because they help pay for their 15 and 16 year olds to have $100+ weaves installed on a weekday and nail tips done on lunch break. It’s quite disturbing.

Underfunded schools aside, it’s a community problem. We’ve got to do better.

Anon
Anon
6 years ago
Reply to  NubianPrize

Why are you on a natural hair site then? Is it to yell at us? I am so confused. We’re here to discuss hair, if you don’t like it, just don’t read it.

honeybrown1976
honeybrown1976
6 years ago
Reply to  NubianPrize

If you can’t see the intersectionalities facing the black community, I don’t know what to tell you. There is a huge connection, and burying your head in the sand because you don’t have anything to add to the conversation helps no one.

sid
sid
6 years ago

No, I do not believe there is a double standard for hair practices within the black community. I think it’s safe to say that the majority of black men where their hair in its natural state, just groomed. Where is all this coming from?

sid
sid
6 years ago
Reply to  sid

Wear* not where.

An
An
6 years ago
Reply to  sid

A majority of black men have no hair. They cut it short because they do not want to see it “nappy”. If a majority of black males had 1/2–2 inches of natural hair is a neat, short cropped fro this statement would be valid most black males cut all their off to nothing/almost nothing because they are ashamed of it. The picture down below is a black guy getting the typical black-male hair cut that a large majority of black male sport. Your statement is invalid.

Faye
Faye
6 years ago
Reply to  An

Lol.…most black males cut their hair off because they’re ashamed of it!?! Madness. I wonder if you are even black or male? No other reason huh? Tidiness? Wanting to have a clean, trimmed look? Not wanting to spend more time grooming perhaps?

An
An
6 years ago
Reply to  Faye

I am a black female who is tired of seeing a majority of black men wear their in the same redundant haircut. How is having 2–3 inches of a shorted cropped natural hair not tidy, cleaned and trimmed. A person that says that 1–3 inches of a cropped natural style is not “clean and trimmed” is just as bad as a person saying a black women’s natural hair looks dirty and unprofessional(see the double standard). Why do black people think their natural hair is not groomed and tidy? I have noticed that the same black male who cuts off is… Read more »

divilin
divilin
6 years ago
Reply to  An

An oh girl you are right. Most black men do cut their hair off and that is because they don’t want to meet Becky’s parents with their natural nappppps!! went to bed with a nigga who wore a duraq every night and it was smelly. I wear a natural and I’m proud of my curly kinky hair, he was pressing them naps down at night with that hard grease in the orange tin can every night and then he called my hair nappy and unkempt. These mammies don’t want to hear the truth. Most black men would rather see black… Read more »

Muhindii
Muhindii
6 years ago
Reply to  Faye

I agree black men are not the same as black women its insulting to put us in the same box they are diffrent for a reason,
Black men cut their hair short because they are men, just like asian, white and indian men cut their hair short beause they are men, not women.

An
An
6 years ago
Reply to  Muhindii

Watch 1:27–1:36 on of this clip. It is the mindset behind many black males with a “fade”.

Many black males cut their hair off because they believe it is nappy and therefore “bad”.

@Muhindii
Are you a black male? Why is it insulting to be put in the same category as a black woman? Are we so lowly that you do not want to be in the same category as us?

Muhindii
Muhindii
6 years ago
Reply to  Muhindii

WOW, wait dont get me wrong, The reason why i was insulted is because i thought people where using the common stereotype that black women like me are manly and people always try to black women and men in the same category, which infuriates me every time, thats why i said we are diffent. When i watched the video you gave me i can see your point, The guy was being very hipocritical about natural hair, i dont thing i have seen a black men like that which was why i was being defencive about them cutting their hair, Its… Read more »

EagleEye
EagleEye
6 years ago
Reply to  Muhindii

BURY YOUR FACE IN THE SAND.

ASIAN, INDIAN, MEXICAN AND WHITE MEN HAVE LONGER HAIR THAN BLACK MEN BY CHOICE. BY CHOICE???????

BURY YOUR FACE IN THE SAND. Are you be insulted to be put in the box with your same race?????????????????????????????

???????

WTF, that is some twisted ish.

God sweep us all away. THIS IS SOME INSANITY.

divilin
divilin
6 years ago
Reply to  Muhindii

Hi, black men wore long hair in the 30’s,40’s 50′ and in the 60’s they have worn big afros when it was in style to do so. You obviously have not studied the evolution of black hair from the 40’s to the 60’s black men would fry dye and lay their hair to the side. Then Malcolm X came out and told them to wear it natural…But then that didn’t last too long, the Afro was worn pretty high by some brothers. Not all Indian and Euro men wear their hair short, some men like long hair on themselves.Black men… Read more »

An
An
6 years ago
Reply to  sid

Black men do not wear ther hair, a majority of them cut it in a short buzz so no one can see the texture.

Michelle
Michelle
6 years ago

I agree there are bigger things to worry about but there is no ignoring a double standard along gender lines. Being mixed I remember my mom saying more than once while I was growing up that we had two strikes against us-being a person of color and being a female- so we had to be in the unfortunate position of having to always prove ourselves. So gender inequality has always been an issue. And yes we have the right to do whatever we want with our own hair without feeling like it is some how an affront to our ‘blackness’.… Read more »

hmmm
hmmm
6 years ago

I definitely agree there is a double standard but not necessarily in the way you describe. Black men definitely get off easy when they express hatred of Black hair.… And boy do they express it! When a female gets a relaxer or weave,she’s considered self hating, wanna be white, etc. When a man hates when girls have “nappy hair”, when they express desire for a Black girlfriend with “long, straight hair”, when they leave or threaten to leave their wives over going natural, when they only date or pay attention to girls with weave or a relaxer… I’m not saying… Read more »

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Jacky
Jacky
6 years ago

I don’t fully relate to this because i went natural for the safety of my health.When i learnt that relaxers were linked to cancer and made of sodium hydroxide(I WAS SO SHOCKED TO FIND OUT WHAT SODIUM HYDROXIDE REALLY IS AND WHAT IT CAN ACTUALLY DO), i stopped relaxing my hair.My relaxed hair had been long,shiny,thick,straight and jet black which made people all the more shocked after i big chopped.Now, when i see ladies who relax their hair, i worry about their health.Apart from that,the relaxers often thin out and damage the hair leaving people with short damaged hair,they then… Read more »

cheni_zim
cheni_zim
6 years ago

I usually find the articles on bglh intersting…but this…really? did they need filler content that badly?

Jen
Jen
6 years ago
Reply to  cheni_zim

Yes they make up problems that do no exist just to get a “click and like”.

Reese
Reese
6 years ago
Reply to  Jen

And this article just got your click.

Jen
Jen
6 years ago
Reply to  Reese

And I wish I could take it back.….

Faye
Faye
6 years ago
Reply to  cheni_zim

Talk about a leap!
One is mechanical manipulation of hair (like a twist out, braid out or heck even a pony tail) and the other is a permanent, chemical manipulation.
Where’s the comparison?

An
An
6 years ago
Reply to  Faye

Their is a difference between setting your hair for a different look and setting your hair to appear looser because you believe it is “better”. Many black males are ashamed of there natural hair texture and just hack it all off to “remedy” the “problem”. The same male who cuts off his hair is often the same male criticizing a black women’s natural hair. Black males have a hair complex. They just cut their hair off and pretend they do not have any. I often hear natural kinky hair being referred to exclusively as “black girl hair”…as if black males… Read more »

Naturalbeauty
Naturalbeauty
6 years ago

This is the MOST petty post and response that I’ve ever read on this site. What a waste of my time.…and I started to skimm after a while. Are there no other hair topics to discuss today? Instead of posting this, I would rather you not posted anything at all…or at least posted a previous article. A waste.

An
An
6 years ago
Reply to  Naturalbeauty

How is this post petty? Black females are constantly asked why they were don’t wear their natural hair texture. Black males do not wear there hair texture either. A majority of black males just cut there hair off and pretend they do not grow naturally kinky hair. They often are the same men who make negative comments toward black females natural hair (unless they approve of it as “good” hair-in that case she is good enough to sleep with). This problem does exist and a large majority of black men hate there kinky hair. They just cut it off to… Read more »

Jen
Jen
6 years ago
Reply to  An

Do you have any statistics? The men and boys that I come in contact with wear the hair in many lengths and styles. Men like versatile hairstyles too.…clean cut, long or short and not because of being ashamed.Some of you people are just making up stuff as you go.

An
An
6 years ago
Reply to  Jen

The average black male has his hair cut so low it does not have chance to “nap” up. Neyo, Chris Brown, Jay‑Z, Kanye West, Michael Jordan,Boris Codjoe, Seal, Kevin Hart, Ludacris, Dule Hill, Trey Songz, DB Woodside, Idris Elba, J. Cole, Shemar Moore, Tyson Beckford, Tyler Perry and MANY others all sport the typical black male haircut. This bald/close-to-bald haircut is common among black males of all ages. It is as common as relaxers.

divilin
divilin
6 years ago
Reply to  An

Preaaachhhh!

divilin
divilin
6 years ago
Reply to  An

Preaaachhhh! I said preach!!!

divilin
divilin
6 years ago
Reply to  Naturalbeauty

You obviously are one of those mammies who doesn’t want to hear anything negative about Black men…But I bet you’d sit with a bag of pop corn and a coke with fried chicken if it was an article bashing BEyonce and her hair weave??

TINA SMITH
TINA SMITH
6 years ago

I GET THE POINT SHE’S TRYING TO MAKE. DON’T KNOW WHY YOU GUYS ARE BEING SO HARD ON HER

Naturalbeauty
Naturalbeauty
6 years ago
Reply to  TINA SMITH

I’m glad you get her point, because to the rest of us its MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING like another commenter said. And are we really being harsh? I haven’t read any harsh comments, just utter confusion about the need to discuss such a meaningless and moot point. Please enlighten me if I’m so off base.

An
An
6 years ago
Reply to  Naturalbeauty

The point is black males are not exempt from developing self-hatred toward their natural hair texture. They are just not pressured to have long hair so they just cut all there hair off and pretend they do not have natural hair at all. This is not meaningless.

Jen
Jen
6 years ago
Reply to  An

Lies you tell.…..

An
An
6 years ago
Reply to  Jen

What lies am I telling? Are you saying that black males are exempt from developing hatred towards their natural hair texture? Are you saying a majority of black males don’t prefer straight hair over natural-textured hair? Are you saying that black males love their natural hair because somehow they managed to become immune to societies kinky-hair hatred? Emphasizes is not put on black males hair because a male’s hair is expected to be “shorter” than a black females hair. If black males were expected to have long hair they would be using relaxers too. Most black males just shave their… Read more »

Tyki
Tyki
6 years ago

Lmfao wave caps dont permanently alter the texture/pattern of your hair. Wave caps arent similar to chemicals whatsoever. This article is reaching and the author should have several seats.

An
An
6 years ago
Reply to  Tyki

Black men wear wave caps to achieve “good” hair waves. SMMMMHHHHH! It is not the same as a black women who likes her hair, setting her hair in a twist-out every once in a while to achieve a different look. Besides the black men who cannot achieve the “good” waves just go bald. Why do you think 99% of black male (of all ages) wear that same tired fade?

Bee
Bee
6 years ago
Reply to  An

The way in which you are saying this makes it the exact same… What about the natural who would rather wear their hair in a twist out everyday all day than wear their hair in its natural shrunken state? If men wear wave caps to achieve “good” hair woman do the same when wearing twist outs and braids.

An
An
6 years ago
Reply to  Bee

In general, women of all races/ethnic groups like to style and alter their hair.If a women wears her hair in a twist-out or gets a weave but has no problem with rocking her natural texture then she does not have these hang-ups. Hair is a great fashion accessory. If she is wearing a twist-out because she thinks the looser texture is better than her own, then she has a hang-up. Too much time is focused only on black women’s hair. I have heard people refer to kinky, natural hair exclusively as exclusively as “black girl hair”. People seem to forget… Read more »

Jen
Jen
6 years ago
Reply to  An

Lies again.…smh

An
An
6 years ago
Reply to  An

@Jen Feb 28 12:41 PM Are you saying that the majority of black males love their hair? Are you saying that they manage to grow up in a anti-“nappy” society but manage to escape the Eurocentric beauty standards forced upon everyone? Are you saying that this hair problem is exclusive to black females even though we share the same texture as black males? A majority Black males also hate their natural hair. It is just easier to for them to hide their self-hatred under they guise of all males having short hair. Males have shorter hair but not black-male-short hair. Black males… Read more »

Tyki
Tyki
6 years ago
Reply to  An

They wear them to enhance the curl pattern they already have. Just like when women with natural hair do twist outs,braid outs, or wash and goes. It’s much better than them relaxing their hair or buying other races of women’s hair to put on their heads.

An
An
6 years ago
Reply to  Tyki

No

Tyler
6 years ago

Wave caps and relaxers are apples and oranges. One is permanently altering your texture with the use of chemicals, and the other is basically just bringing out the already-curly texture of your own natural hair. Come on now.

Tyler
http://onelittleblackdress.com

EagleEye
EagleEye
6 years ago
Reply to  Tyler

OH YOU COME ON NOW TYLER. Are you claiming altering your texture in different ways because you simply hate it is oranges and apples? The underlying factor is hating ones self because they feel inferior. And what do you mean “bringing out the already bringing out the curly texture of your hair”. They don’t have any to bring out. That darn box is misleading. I have not seen a black male with that much hair since.….. since.…. I don’t know. AND WHAT DOES “BRING OUT YOUR TEXTURE MEAN”????? If you have the texture there is nothing to bring out! It’s supposed to be… Read more »

divilin
divilin
6 years ago
Reply to  Tyler

Tyler men with a tighter z kink do use chemicals to get that wave look. That’s why they call it “S CURL” There are other texturizers that they use too. I was just looking at a 22 year old guy with a texturizer 5 minutes ago. I asked if tht was his natural hair texture? he said NO.

An
An
6 years ago

A black male shaving his hair of and a black woman getting a weave (only is she is ashamed of her texture, I know a lot of people get them to change up the style but have 0 hangups)is the same thing. I cannot believe how some the posters on here fail to see that. Look around, Have you notice a large majority of black males of all ages have close to no hair? Black males are bald. I have seen black males from 13–35 sport the same overdone fade or “waves”. Having zero hair is for babies,the unwell and… Read more »

An
An
6 years ago
Reply to  An

I’ve forgot to mention that on the Dr. drew episode on natural hair, the black men collectively agreed that if their son’s hair was too “nappy” they would “just cut it all off”. I guess that explains why the majority of young black males sport the same old 1 millimeter fade, slicked down with Murray’s pomade and pressed into “waves”. I’m sure some of there beauty regimens are longer then my cowash, clap in oil and go regimen. I’ve seen black males whipping out boar bristle to slick their millimeter waves down to keep them from “napping” up. I’ve also… Read more »

Elle
Elle
6 years ago
Reply to  An

Why can’t the reason for men not wearing their hair past a certain length or wearing wave caps be the fact that they do not know how to properly take care of their hair at any other length do to the fact that they were not taught how to. The same thing goes for women with natural hair. Many wore their hair relaxed because it was believed once it was straight their was nothing else one had to do as far as the proper care and keeping of the hair. Men cut their hair short because it’s easier. Not just… Read more »

An
An
6 years ago
Reply to  Elle

“Men cut their hair short because it’s easier. Not just because they hate their hair texture.” If black males did not have a problem with kinky-textured natural hair some women wouldn’t be afraid to go natural because their “significant other won’t like it”. A majority of black men have hair hang-ups, that is why they actively seek women with “good hair” to have kids with. How many times have you heard, ” I want to go with a ‘Latina’ gur’ so my kids can have all dat silky good hur?” Black males do not want anything to do with natural… Read more »

Elle
Elle
6 years ago

Black me DO internalize the same negative feelings about kinky hair and apply that negative stereotype to themselves. In a sea of White men comfortable with longer hair, Black men, regardless of cultural background, completely eschew by largely cutting their hair completely off! Why do you think so many Black men completely eliminate their hair from site whereas White men are comfortable growing it longer? Even if a White male’s hair is still technically short and ‘business appropriate’, at least 2–3 inches are there, where are Black men with this level of social freedom? Ridicule, the degree of ‘nappiness’ and… Read more »

norris
norris
6 years ago

Although I do not liken men wearing caps to maintain their waves to women relaxing their hair, I do understand the point that this article is trying to make, and I think it is a good point!

honeybrown1976
honeybrown1976
6 years ago

Why are so many women protecting black men and their insecurities? They put them on you on a daily basis; yet, like loyal puppies you still feel the need to protect them.

This is a stretch”, blah blah blah. No. This isn’t a stretch. Many black men still hold a color complex when selecting partners as well as desiring long, “good” hair and near European features on them. So, why is it a stretch to think that many of them don’t think this way about their hair? Buried heads only suffocate you.

Sasha
Sasha
6 years ago

Okay I think the author’s use of the s‑curls to illustrate the double standard regarding hair in the black community is not the best example to get the point across or to engage productive dialogue. We cannot discuss the internalization of “good hair / bad hair,” among blacks without recognizing the significance of gender.

An
An
6 years ago
Reply to  Sasha

You are right. The S‑Curl is not the best comparison. A black male would have to have hair to get it S‑Curled. Most black males do not have hair. They either wear their hair cut so close to there scalp you can’t see the texture or bald (think Keven Hart, Kanye West, Jay‑Z, J Cole, Tyler Perry, Ludacris, Seal, Michael Jordin, Kendrick Lamar, Chris Brown, P. Diddy, Wayne Brady, Idres Elba, Drake, Bow Wow, 50 Cent, Neyo, Tyson Beckford, Joey Bada$$, Ray J., Tiger Woods, Omari Hardwick, Boris Kodjoe, Laz Alonso, Shemar Moore and many others). The author should made… Read more »

An
An
6 years ago

Watch 1:27–1:36 of this clip. It is the mindset behind many black males with a “fade”.

sheree
sheree
6 years ago

Honestly, I’m really appalled at how people responded to this. Most commenters weren’t constructive at all and just came on here to bash you because they don’t agree with your view. This entire thread is MAD disrespectful and I’m sorry for that Geniece. Not because I 100% agree with everything you said but because everyone deserves respect! Good Lord. That being said, my only problem with this article is how it didn’t really explore the issues that black men face in more depth. With a little more research and empathy for their situation, I could see this article turning out way… Read more »

EagleEye
EagleEye
6 years ago

Yeah , I gotta’ comment and say all the ladies on this thread were downright in denial and disrespectful to Anne. What the heck is that about? She insulted no one and is talking in a precise matter while some of the people who disagree are sling ad hominens, which means attack the person because you can not attack the argument. Maybe everyone is used to blaming black women for the everyone’s problems. That’s some sexist stuff. Maybe these ladies don’t want to believe their sons and brothers collectively hate their hair and ALSO perpetuate this good hair nonsense on… Read more »

EagleEye
EagleEye
6 years ago

LOL why protect these people? Tyrone with the fade and glittery earrings is ugly, shallow with a bad ignorant personality who hates black people. UGLY. DeShawn is ugly with his fade screaming about the barber when little fuzzies start to grow and so on and so forth, did I mention he hates his hair which means he hates you. You can’t hate your hair and your features but want a black partner. LOL why protect him? That is so pathetic — hurling your bodies over Tyrone to stop the bullets from piercing his skin though he makes fun of you… Read more »

divilin
divilin
6 years ago
Reply to  EagleEye

Exactly. Truth thank you.

EagleEye
EagleEye
6 years ago

SO ANNOYING. THAT’S WHAT MEN ARE SUPPOSED TO DO NOT WOMEN.

DANG.

EagleEye
EagleEye
6 years ago

PROTECTING YOUR OTHER GENDER OF RACE WITH THE SAME AGGRESSIVENESS LIKE A MAN SHOULD. THE ONLY REASON TYRONE DOES WANT YOU IS BECAUSE THEY THINK YOU ARE MIXED. Tyrones: Fools with fades and jewelry who make cat calls on the street. Makes fun of hair and drools over pale latinas and white women. Only dates women who are shades lighter than him. He may wear a suit or call himself a pretty boy and wear gangster clothes. His eyes go »»»»»»>that way when he sees your natural unaltered hair state or when you take off your wig. Sound like someone you know? CHOPPING… Read more »

EagleEye
EagleEye
6 years ago

PROTECTING THE INSANITY.

EagleEye
EagleEye
6 years ago

Maybe these are black men parading as black females trying to confuse someone, get your butts back on Media TakeOut to drool over white women and go back to trying to sign up for StormFront.

KinkyKurlies
KinkyKurlies
6 years ago

This issue really needs to be discussed. Its crazy because a lot of black men will bash natural women for rocking their natural locks but in reality we all have the same hair texture. He may just get his cut down in a low fade or s‑curl, ect.

Pseudonym
Pseudonym
6 years ago

I feel silly that I had NO IDEA that wave caps and all that were chemical hair relaxers! I honestly thought that’s how the guys’ hair looked naturally!

360waveprocess/Rashaad

Geniece says in her post, “The level of criticism leveled against women who choose to wear weaves or chemically process their hair is nearly non-existent for men who wear S‑Curls and religiously keep their hair “lined up” in order to avoid unkempt..” I would like to add that in the 360 wave community a guys who use, “Texturizers” or, “S‑curl products” are not taken serious. She also says, “I’ve heard brothers criticize a woman for wearing a weave who would never mention anything critical to his male friend who uses chemicals to maintain his “waves”.” I remain neutral to your… Read more »

Love123
Love123
5 years ago

I am a dark skinned biracial black women (Indian mother, Jamacian father) I am dating a dark skinned Jamaican man. I thought at first he was secure in his blackness… With time I realized that not to be the case. All of the women in his family have natural hair and wear it natural except for his twin sister who is natural but chooses to wear weaves and wigs. He bashes her for it constantly to me. I thought he was secure because he loves dark skinned women (most of his friends only date light skinned women)… He later clarified that… Read more »

Katy Jones
Katy Jones
5 years ago

Black women overall have always Unconditionally Loved black men but black men always think they have other options when it comes to black women. Putting down the darkest skin woolliest haired black women is an hobby for many black men.

Cosita
Cosita
5 years ago

I remember a few years ago some guys at work telling me they go to the barber shop every week for a hair cut. I was shocked. How much hair can you grow in a week? You would never catch me in a salon every week even when I was relaxed. They said they had to or it does some funky weird curl. Another guy I work with doesn’t do this though. He gets his cut like every month and a half to two months. Grows a fro then cuts it low. Now in my mom’s side family like grandfather,… Read more »

Mochachick
Mochachick
5 years ago
Reply to  Cosita

Once a week is excessive IMO. My 14 yr old son has a similar pattern to your coworker – gets a fade, with a some length at the top, grows it to a fro, wears the fro for a while, then starts the process all over again by cutting it down to a fade again. He’s in the barber’s
chair about once a month or even sometimes he waits for 2 months if he’s feeling his fro.

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