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Revisiting “bad” products

Avatar • Aug 27, 2010

Yesterday style icon Shondi mentioned that she uses UltraSheen grease in her hair, with great success. This brave admission generated some really interesting discussion about whether products containing petroleum and mineral oil (which are generally considered bad for the hair due to their clogging/drying effect) can actually be part of a successful natural hair regimen.

Commenter Andrea T said;

Why is everyone surprised that some people have nice hair from using old school products?… My mom used ultra sheen on us and I used it for years and years and had good results (hair was long and thick and like she said, flattened/straightened out nicely after a couple of days post wash and application).

I get that nowadays there is a big emphasis on natural oils, and they can be nice, but it’s not like no one had long and healthy hair using the old stuff. Everyone is different…so why is everyone so surprised? I wish that all of these blogs would stop acting like no black women had long healthy hair until people had the internet and layered 20 products on it. I’m kind of amazed at all of the talk about such complicated regimens, but am glad that some of the women featured here have pretty healthy hair and don’t spend all day applying products to it.

The only thing I like about the “new age” natural products is that the scent is lighter and in the summer, they are less greasy. But I’d use TCB or Ultra Sheen in a hot NY minute in the winter time.

Can I please ask, what exactly is your response to people who had healthy hair growing up, didn’t have trouble retaining length, and did it with nothing but a boar bristle brush, a goody plastic comb, and some Ultra Sheen?”

Commenter v.c. said;

I’m all for the natural-oils and natural hair products, don’t get me wrong, but I’m getting tired of people acting like your hair is going to fall out if you use products that have things like petroleum, mineral oil, etc. in the product, as if its the shocker of the century that people can have healthy hair and maintain it from basically the “bad” products.

I think everyone focuses so much on being against the “old fashioned” products that they forget that everyone is different, not all of us can financially afford to spent $15-$20 per bottle of a fancy organic shampoo or conditioner, and let’s face it, for some people, the “no-no products” works perfectly fine for their hair. It’s all about preference. We need to stop encompassing everyone into the all-natural bubble and realize that at the end of the day, we, and our hair, are individuals, and what may work for you will not work for others, and that’s OKAY.

In my own experience petroleum laced products weigh down the hair in a way that water-based products (like many popular leave-ins) cannot. And sometimes I do want that weight, particularly if I’m styling. While I wouldn’t use hair grease as a leave-in I understand how it is useful in providing temporary hold and shine.

Do you use products with petroleum and mineral oil? In what capacity? Do they work for you?

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Angela Walker
9 years ago

I found the two comments hilarious. While I do not use any products with petroleum or mineral oil I must say I don’t use any of the fancy named prodcuts either. People are always amazed when they ask me what do I use in my hair and I respond Olive Oil, water, aloe vera gel and occassionally shea butter. It’s so true, our emphasise on these new natural hair products have given us a false hope that anything outside of the natural realm will cause your hair to fall off. The truth of the matter is while some non natural… Read more »

honeybrown1976
honeybrown1976
9 years ago

Since starting my healthy hair journey, I haven’t used petroleum or mineral-oil. Honestly, I don’t miss it.

Angela of Neglected Princess

My mother used Ulta Sheen on my hair until I started doing it myself, and my hair was strong, healthy and down my back! I agree that sometimes Old School is the best school!

Ericka
Ericka
9 years ago

This is my 2nd time doing a b/c and going natural July 2010. The first time May 2008, I was so frustrated about the money that I was spending ( not having done research prior to my b/c on products) that didnt work that I permed a year later. This time I did/doing research and still was feeling frustrated from the overload of information on all the things that I should not use, but then looking at the cost of all the things that were “better,more natural” for me hair. Like Ivy my husband cracks up at me when I… Read more »

Nicole
Nicole
9 years ago

My mother used Ultra Sheen and Eucerin cream in my hair when I was young, but my hair was always dry, but retained length because it was braided up almost 24/7. I tried using Ultra Sheen in my hair again when I went natural and it just didn’t work, especially because I was wearing my hair out as opposed in braids. I tried products with even a small amount of mineral oil in them and my hair would become so unbelievably dry, so I found other products that worked, which are more water based and makes sense for my super… Read more »

Irendi
9 years ago

Since doing more research on hair and transitioning, I haven’t used petrolatum/ mineral oil products on my hair (body- Yes!). I’ve only been transitioning since May. However, when I look at past pictures of my hair, it has been its healthiest when I took care of it, regardless of the products. I wore wash & go’s w/ baby oil gel worked into it for a while! My hair was long, healthy, thick, and pretty. I’ve also had the same results when I used more modern products. In the end, all that matters is what works FOR YOU! If it works,… Read more »

kinksncurls
kinksncurls
9 years ago

I’ve been curious about this same question for a while. Especially when it comes to cones. Most of the product in stores (including outside of the ethnic section) has cones! Can they really be that bad? I guess the only way to figure it out would be to give it a try and see what happens

Stacey
Stacey
9 years ago

I use products without pertroleum and mineral oil. Mainly because my scalp is sensitive and they make me itch like nobody’s business! I prefer food grade products honestly. Good ole honey, yogurt, EVOO, EVCO, aloe vera juice/gel, etc. I do use Herbal Essences totally twisted but other than that I stick to what doesn’t have my scalp looking like a snow storm.

If those things work for you I say go ahead. We are all different and I too had a head full of lush long natural hair using old fashioned grease!

LaNeshe
9 years ago

I’ve been trying to avoid them since I’ve become more educated on natural hair care. I think I have one shampoo that still has some mineral oil in it, and that is about it. But they raise a good point about old products.

LBell
LBell
9 years ago

Here I go again being the old lady on the scene…(pulling up rocking chair) I went natural LONGGGG before all this information was available online. You know how one of the most common complaints for new naturals, esp. type 4 naturals, is dryness? I NEVER EVER had this issue as a new natural and I figured out why: When I had a TWA I was using Moisture Max (and, when that stopped working due to the increased length of my hair, Pink Oil) on my damp hair religiously. Both of those products had and still have mineral oil. Nowadays y’all… Read more »

L. Michelle
9 years ago

I have always said that the products deemed as “bad” now, kept my hair thick and luscious when I was little and getting my hair pressed weekly.

I currently do not use products with mineral oil and/or petroleum, but I do still have these products in my stash.

Gabriella
Gabriella
9 years ago

The commenters sound way too angry and judgemental, it’s not that serious. If you massage cow dung and a blend of 1000 oils into your hair every night or you just use that Blue Magic like momma, no one else needs to know or cares. Sure when I see some of these new age regimens I’m thinking ‘when does she sleep?’ but similarly if I see someone using all that old grease and granny and mom’s methods, I wince to remember how my hair was never moisturised but a greasy dry hot mess. Do what works for you but don’t… Read more »

regina s
regina s
9 years ago

i really don’t care what hair grease, shampoo and oils i use long as its on sale or low prices plus my hair is not coming out. Reading all don’t use this or that stuff is crazy to me. If you hate product does not mean bash it or make others believe the only thing around.

I cant even think of buying no hair products without those ingredients just cost too much.

just my opinion,

sarah
sarah
9 years ago

i am SO glad you brought this up! i personally don’t use such products, but never look down on someone for using Blue Magic and the like. our parents used it on us and we had healthy hair. why? because they also shampooed our hair with a good strong shampoo. remember wash days? shampoo, sometimes twice, condition, then a good greasing. these things went hand in hand and our hair flourished. now, it’s okay if you wanna use no cones, no poo, or what have you, but don’t knock the old school products. moreover, the healthiest head of hair i’ve… Read more »

Jasmyn
9 years ago

When I was younger, my mom used Bronner Brother’s Super Gro Hair Conditioner (we used to call it B&B) which has petrolatum as its first ingredient and mineral oil as its second. That was the only consistent thing I remember putting in my hair pre-relaxer and my mom and I still swear that that’s what kept my hair strong. As a matter of fact, I got two jars at home and might bust that out again now that I’m all natural!

copelli
copelli
9 years ago

I think when you learn better, you do better. That’s not to say that the old products didn’t work, let’s face it, they were staples back in the day. But we know now, that petro clogs hair follicles and that some of the chemicals are not what you want in your body or on your hair. But whether or not you use “old” or new natural products is on you. Now I do happen to agree with the comments on the complicated regimens. I am not quite understanding the constant co-washing of hair 3 and 4 times a week, and… Read more »

BrownSugahChild
9 years ago

I commented in the post that even though i love my KBB products, my Carol’s Daughter (some products), Ojon, and other pricey hair products, my hair just simply loves moisture and from time to time when my pay check doesn’t agree with the pricier items i have no shame in using my ultra sheen, royal crown,or blue majic! Like Irendi stated (btw, beautiful name!) it’s about what works for YOU!! my mother, grandmother,and my beautiful great grandmother used these products as well. My great grandmother would faithfully use a can of Crisco cooking grease to press her thick, waist length… Read more »

serenissima
9 years ago

i think Gabriella put it best… honestly people are looking for some kind of miracle cure to grow their hair long and are looking for a product to villainize when their hair doesnt grow at the speed/thickness/whatever they want. currently those products are mineral oil and petrolatum. but everyone is different and needs to find a regimen that works for them. as a child my hair was thick and down my back with the use of products like blue magic, ultra sheen, and pink lotion… as a permie it was down my back with hollywood beauty brand castor oil and… Read more »

nicola
nicola
9 years ago

@gabriella, no one was being angry or judgmental in their postings they all just stated their opinions on the topic.

Gil
Gil
9 years ago

I agree with Gabriella. The posters souded harsh. They made it seem like people with hese regimens are silly and rankly they sounded bitter with their not eveyone can afford to spend 20 dollars on their hair line. I’ve never heard any natural haired lady force anyone to buy certain products. Its all good that they can use grease on their hair but there’s no need to be bitter as Gabriella said.

rachel
rachel
9 years ago

I am with nicola i don’t think anyone sounds harsh or angry there was a question posted they answered it, thats it

iman
iman
9 years ago

I used to use Kinky Curling custard for wash and goes. My results were great, but the drying time was crazy. I started used Miss Jessie’s for wash & goes and it drys much faster & the results are wonderful. Plus, I’m able to apply it right in the shower in less than 10mns. Now, Miss Jessie’s has mineral oil and a lot of the “bad stuff” that Kinky Curly doesn’t have. For a while, that kept me away from using their stuff, but I’m at the point where I need to use things that are simple and effective. I… Read more »

Naturelle a Montreal
Naturelle a Montreal
9 years ago

There’s another perspective to throw into the debate. Part of my healthy hair journey means choosing products that are healthy for me and for the environment. I have been transitioning for nearly 10 months now and have been attempting to take a holistic approach to the change — in how I treat my hair, my body, my mind, and what surrounds me. I am embracing in my hair’s natural appearance and don’t want to treat it in a way that is harsh or with harsh products. I have concerns about the effect that the extraction of and dependance on mineral… Read more »

BrownSugahChild
9 years ago

i think the subject at hand is if these products are as bad as some of the blog, forums,commenters,you tubers, etc claim that they are. I mean if it was good for the ladies before us, why is it not so good for us now? Like most of us are saying, if it works for you…then use it!!! I believe the platforms used to attain all the information are just suggestions. There is no right and wrong way to care for YOUR hair, if you are able to achieve thick, health hair by using the grease off of a McDonald… Read more »

Shaxina
9 years ago

As a natural for almost a year, I have made a conscious decision not to use products that contain mineral oil, petroleum, parabens and sulfates. People are choosing to use all natural and organic products for a reason. Choose and do what is best for you but dont knock the people who are seeking to be healthier and use healthy products. Yes, great results came from products with these ingredients but after people find out what these ingredients truly do, they decide it is better to leave them alone…the same with food and people shying away from ingredients that are… Read more »

Ayanna
9 years ago

Ok, I agree that people should work with what works best for them personally. I grew up on some coconut oil, dax hair grease and sulfur 8 for occasional dandruff and I also slapped on my fair share of petroluem jelly to slick my hair back into a bun. In the 90s, we graduated to African Pride products. I try not to get too hyped, dimissive or condescending of certain products. I do try BUT as I told one of my girl-friends the other day, we are living in a really different world today and evironment and we should always… Read more »

Ruth
Ruth
9 years ago

This is interesting. I now wonder what my hair would look and feel like if I went back to using those products.

Shones
Shones
9 years ago

Hmm… so I think I’ll try it, old-fashioned grease, that is. And if I don’t like it, I’ll just switch back! There *dusting off hands*, problem solved.

Leo the Yardie Chick
Leo the Yardie Chick
9 years ago

Thinking back to my first 11 years of life — Nope. They gave my hair sheen, yes, but that was about it. It certainly didn’t make combing this bush on my head (which is how I viewed my hair at the time) any easier. Even though my mother never applied much to my hair and scalp, living in a country set to Blazing Hot and Sunny 90% of the time turned even the barest application into a pool of grease on my scalp. I don’t miss ’em. However, products work differently on different heads so if old school works for… Read more »

C.o
C.o
9 years ago

People cite clogged pores and dryness as the reason to rule out mineral oil and petrolatum based products, but those two things should not really be an issue if you wash(not co-wash) your hair with shampoo at least once a week. I have 4c hair & for me mineral oil/petrolatum based products worked best to seal in moisture after applying a leave-in condition to my hair first as well as provide great sheen; great especially in the winter time. I didn’t clog my pores because I shampooed & conditioned my hair on a weekly basis. Like the the last commenter… Read more »

Kristen
9 years ago

I just did the big chop (almost 2 weeks ago) while I am still researching, and learning about my hair, I want to stay away from products that contain petroleum in them. I’m not saying they are harmful, but I don’t want to take any risks, seeing as I am still new at this.

thelady
thelady
9 years ago

Never been a big fan of hair grease. I only used it on my relaxed hair to base my scalp and edges. I mostly used oil sheen sprays when I wore my hair straight. Of course my Mom moisturizes her face with petroleum every day and her skin looks fine but I rather but coconut oil on my face, I love the smell and it doesn’t make me break out. My hair loves coconut oil, Shea butter and conditioner. Aloe Vera makes my scalp itch. Sometimes I get build up from the Shea butter so I’m going to try ACV… Read more »

Tamar
9 years ago

When I was little my mom used to put blue magic hair grease in my hair matter fact most of the people i knew with long thick hair did and i sure blue magic has petroleum..When i first natural i never heard about petroleum and mineral oil being bad nor did I hear about curl types…Personally right now I try not to use grease with petroleum or mineral oil on my hair only because its too heavy on my hair but don’t get me wrong I still will use product like du grow that contains mineral oil due to the… Read more »

Daja
Daja
9 years ago

I think people are getting ahead of themselves since this whole shift towards everything being ‘natural’. Mineral oil in its unrefined state clogs the pore, not it’s refined, cosmetic state (find it in most hair products). Cosmetic refined mineral oil actually conditions the hair, seals the moisture, and helps in detangling. But there are some natural unrefined/refined products that also do these things. I understand you guys don’t trust all the chemicals, but there are some chemically enhanced things in our socety that has greatly improved our lives (just because you can’t pronounce the name doesn’t mean it’s bad). The… Read more »

Daja
Daja
9 years ago

Also do you guys realize that a lot of the ‘chemicals’ are just mixtures of natural-found-in-the-earth ingredients that have been re-bonded by systematic scientific methods? Mineral oil and petrolatum are naturally occuring, it’s just that you extract it from a source and rid it of it’s impurities (that actually cause the harmful effects) by rebonding and other methods. Just to through some science in here.

alice
alice
9 years ago

everyone’s hair is different. what works for one person may not work for me. i have eczema so products with mineral oil, petroleum and frangrance cause an immediate reaction on my scalp and skin. thats why I dont use products with those ingredients.

binks
binks
9 years ago

Actually, I agree with the two comments from these ladies. I think it is the case of if it works for you then do it. I still use grease and my hair is growing and benefiting fine from it…shrugs… I think many people are on this “only use certain product” or “organic” trip for your hair just because it says it is for natural hair or that it is all natural, so that means it is the best when in some cases it isn’t. Yes, petroleum and mineral oil does clog pores and can weigh your hair down if you… Read more »

Nikki
Nikki
9 years ago

Growing up we used all kinds of greases from the beauty supply and my mom favored this Bergamot blue grease. My hair is thick and strong so I never had a problem. But once I became older and started taking care of my relaxed hair I realized that none of these greases did much to moisturize my hair and keep it from feeling dried out. A yr or so before I did the big chop I discovered Carol’s Daughter’s Healthy Hair Butter and saw the difference, it really moisturized my hair. I also found another conditioner that had natural ingredients… Read more »

aJwitaFrO
9 years ago

Wow, reading all these comments is really intersting. I love hearing everyone’s opinions about this. I agree that this is only a “touchy” subject in the Natural hair community because of all the “new age” hair practices out there. I think that “back in the day” when people were using a lot of mineral oil based products, they were also keeping their hair regimens EXTREMELY simple thus the extreme length retention & thickness. So, it wasn’t that these products were doing anything special back in the day. Today, I think people are just so obsessed with manipulating their hair to… Read more »

Steph
Steph
9 years ago

I use Pink Oil in my hair at the moment, and I find that it works the best for my hair, its length, and my lifestyle. I tried to swear by shea butter at one time, but my body chemistry did not agree with it and my hair would smell offensive after a few hours of its application. So even though I felt guilty about going back to the “bad” stuff at first, it was the best thing for me.

Camille in Slovenia
9 years ago

Nice post! I agree with people who vote the old school stuff down because of the smell and the feel. Also I think that kind of grease would really cause me to break out these days whereas my skin as a child was more resistant..

Mikou
Mikou
9 years ago

My hair was thicker when I was a child, but I think that had more to do with being younger, keeping hair in braided styles and very rare use of heat than it had to do with the products. On the negative side, I always had dandruff. Always. My scalp would flake immediately after washing, even. That only got worse as I got older. Since I cut out the mineral oil and petroleum (and ‘cones) and since I no longer need strong detergents to wash those things out, I have no dandruff at all and haven’t had it for several… Read more »

Black Married Momma
9 years ago

In some ways, I think the emerging natural haircare industry is becoming yet another way to hold black women’s time and pocketbooks hostage. All these double-digit-priced products and labor-intensive regimens … along with costly natural hair salons that deliver sticker shock to provide simple styles like cornrows or two-strand twists … are becoming practically as much of a captor as the creamy crack continuum. I have locs, so my haircare routine is rather straightforward and simple. My daughters have manes of thick and long hair, and I do not purchase $58, $30 or $15 products for it. I do use… Read more »

Joslyn
Joslyn
9 years ago

Hmmmm…This is crazy how there will ALWAYS be some type of divisiveness amongst black women and hair LOL…So its not ENOUGH that one decides to not get a relaxer, but she has to follow some “policy code” on what products to use for HER hair?? This is funny. I wonder when we will truly be free with our hair 🙁 I use what WORKS for my hair and my coils and curls are doing just fine!

Eleisha
Eleisha
9 years ago

I believe that whatever floats your boat… if it works well for you and your hair go for it. I mean how is that really hurting me? I personally do no use those products b/c after not using them I see that some of the ingredients is where my scalp issues came from. However I’d never put anyone down for using that. Just b/c it doesn’t work for me doesn’t mean it won’t work for you. Do ya thing boos and have that healthy hair!!! That’s really why I went natural to begin w/ is to have healthy hair. (relaxers… Read more »

v.c.
v.c.
9 years ago

@ Gabriella- I don’t think me and the other commenter were trying to be “too angry and judgmental” as you put it. I’m not knocking down people who use all natural products (I’m one of those people who uses all natural products ALL the time!) or who pile on so many products on their hair. We aren’t knocking down anybody! If that’s how you took our comments, fine, fair enough, but on the other hand it seems like you weren’t getting the point. The point is, everyone is what works for some people may not work for others. Although it… Read more »

NinaG
NinaG
9 years ago

I agree with Alice, everyone is different. When I first ‘went natural’, I was a teenager with a healthy scalp and would use any products my mother bought; nearly 10 years later, I can’t just use anything in my hair because I have Seborrheic Dermatitis. Not to mention, I’ve become more aware of the potential for adverse health outcomes caused by prolonged use of certain chemicals (this doesn’t mean that everything ‘natural’ is completely safe either).

Cazoshay
Cazoshay
9 years ago

It’s not just the effect mineral oil has on your hair and it’s growth, it’s the effect it has on your body as a whole. This excerpt was taken from http://www.herballuxuries.com/about-mineral-oil.html and explains the effect of mineral oil on the body and skin: “Mineral oil acts as a thin layer on the skin. It is difficult to absorb and clogs the pores, which slows the skin’s ability to eliminate toxins. Remember, the skin is the body’s largest organ and plays an important role in maintaining overall health! Once the oil is absorbed, it is broken down by the liver and… Read more »

Cosmolude
Cosmolude
9 years ago

I don’t necessarily think these ingredients are bad, but I just think there are other oils or products that work better for my hair. People should use what works best for themselves and not how other naturals may judge them for using something that’s not natural. I also think that it depends on how the product is being used. Before I was natural and I used products with “bad ingredients” to try to moisturize my hair (because that’s what the package claimed to do) but it wouldn’t work. But with research, I now understand that these ingredients would be useful… Read more »

Betty Chambers
9 years ago

If someone claimed that motor oil could make a black woman’s hair grow faster than usual, a certain number of them would stock up on it pronto! Then they’d get defensive if others said otherwise, because they’d claim their regimes are making their hair grow, it works for them, and they hate being told that using motor oil doesn’t actually work. Alrighty, then. I’m thankful for the natural heads in the past who’ve highlighted what’s up with using petroleum based products. I found their advice to be helpful, and it was always done with a neutral you-can-take-it or leave-it demeanor.… Read more »

Andrea T
Andrea T
9 years ago

I’m the other person who was quoted on this blog, and while I don’t mind, I see that most people are missing the point and context of the original comment, even though it is stated in the first line of this post. Sondi/Shondi (it says one thing on her highlight and another in this article), mentioned having always been natural and having always used basic, old school hair products. And her hair was lovely and seemed to grow quite well. Many commenters in that thread expressed surprised that she’d had so much hair (had recently cut off 10 inches) using… Read more »

Rose
Rose
8 years ago
Reply to  Andrea T

Back in the day when I used the petroleum laden products I had more hair …thicker, healthier and longer

Today I’m happily incorporating some of the old products back into my regimen…

Tosha
Tosha
9 years ago

For all the discussion of hair types, length and products, I rarely see anyone talk about overall health. Any one of us can glop on products and still not see great results because of poor nutrition and health. Taking care of ourselves from the inside out generally affects our hair and skin. “All natural” on the outside does not make up for “all natural” on the inside. Veggies, fiber, water, etc and exercise can do much more than worrying about GOOD and BAD products. Plus the cost of some of these items is out of the range of many people.… Read more »

Phedra
Phedra
9 years ago
Reply to  Tosha

I agree 100%

I think genetics, diet, stress, & overall health affect your hair growth more than products.

Look at other races, not all of them have the same hair or texture which is why there are so many different products for them. People are not healthy tend to have thinner hair overall from my experience.

I believe nutrients from the earth will have the biggest effect on your ability to grow hair. There is no miracle product or regiment out there…and I refuse to spend $50 for a jar of curling custard.

Faith
Faith
9 years ago

I have to say that I have always been natural but damaged my hair with so bad practices. But I tried using all natural stuff an yet it left my hair crazy every time. My mom kept telling me I need to do what she did to my hair as a child an use the products she used an stop tryin to do all this other stuff cuz its not working. Of course, I told her no I cant use any of those old products plus I had purchased so many natural products that I felt silly if I didnt… Read more »

Real RBN
Real RBN
8 years ago
Reply to  Faith

I having the same experience.….I’m going back to the old stuff and giving my natural friends and family my $50 puddings, smoothies, butters etc…

Dom
Dom
8 years ago
Reply to  Real RBN

What Kind of products do you use?

Inez
Inez
9 years ago

“This is kind of a secondary issue, but I feel that people are also trading in the obsession with how long is your hair to how big/curly is your afro and how long did it take for you to get there. That has been a blog topic as well. And again, when you have no information, and haven’t seen your hair in a while, it’s understandable that you want some kind of benchmark, but my concern is that people will wonder why they don’t have waist length hair after a year or two and conclude incorrectly that they should be… Read more »

TINA SMITH
TINA SMITH
8 years ago
Reply to  Inez

are saying that not every one can be bra strap or waist length? i’m really confuse about your comment.i’m interested to know what website you are speaking of

Anyaposh
9 years ago

**APPLAUSE**

I co-sign with everything in the last 3 paragraphs that Inez says. From a 4B sista, things are just different. And it’s OK to affirm this difference.

Perkisha
Perkisha
9 years ago

I agree with the above posts. Everyone’s hair is different, and I find that the advice I get from other naturals even if they have the same hair “type/texture/look” as mine still may not work for my hair. I have hair idols as well, but often can’t follow thier regimens cause my hair does her own thang, and needs to be treated as such. Thinking about this and reading this post has got me thinking. I just complained in another post about my issue with getting the result from stretched styles. Perhaps going back to some of my old school… Read more »

Andrea T
Andrea T
9 years ago

Well, as we’ve kept pointing out, everyone is different, but my favorite brands of old school grease are Ultra Sheen (the green is “greasier” I think), TCB, and B and B. More recently, a friend turned me on to Do Groo and it reminded me of the old school products too. Just like when i was growing up, grease is a bit trickier when it’s hot but is easier to deal with in winter. I just don’t like to have a lot of anything on my face or hair in the heat and humidity. Your hair may not stay straight… Read more »

Thickums
Thickums
9 years ago

When i clicked on this blog and i saw the ultra sheen i almost passed out because i use it in my hair. Well i have used it a couple of times and all i could remember is my hair was ok. It’s a throwback product that i have no issue using because my mother used it in my hair. And from what i can remember my hair was thick and long back then until the relaxer. With all the new discoveries in natural and organic products on the rise it gives us a choice. As a therapist we learn… Read more »

Adrianna Bell
Adrianna Bell
9 years ago

I SOOOOOO.…. agree with Andrea T! As a cosmetologist, I always say, Hair is going to grow regardless of what you use!!!! Greasing your scalp will not harm your hair. I have a friend who is faithful to so many product that she as become a product junkie! Your hair can grow down your back with shampoo, conditioner, grease and moisturizer! I have seen it happen. THERE IS NO SECRET TO GROWING HAIR!!!!!! I have been natural a year and my hair is exactly where it needs to be length wise, and in great shape. I havent cut my ends… Read more »

Leanee
Leanee
9 years ago

I’ve finally gotten to the point where I’m tired of only using strictly natural ingredients and avoiding the ones that I’d like to use because they have mineral oil or petrolatum in them. I still prefer the less sticky feel of non-greasy products to greasy types, but I don’t mind using a little Perfect Results or Blue Magic. I use them sparingly (not globs of it), and since I wash my hair at least 1–2 times per week, the product doesn’t stay in my hair for more than a day or two. I think we need to use what works… Read more »

Kenjah
Kenjah
9 years ago

Personally, I’m not against using “grease” and old school products. I’m trying to figure out what I did when I was younger to achieve manageable hair pre-relaxer days. That’s hard to do being that I moved from Ohio to Florida. It’s all about what you are trying to achieve (manageability, moisture, hold), where you live (varying climates make a big difference on what’s effective) and your individual hair type. I’m not into the 4b/4c ordeal. Use what works for you and your purpose!!!

Vicky
Vicky
9 years ago

I guess this really means that what matters is haircare practices and not products.

Anita
Anita
9 years ago

Let me first say that I love this blog site.I have been reading it for two days straight. I couldn’t wait to get on this morning, I have learned so much, but I was getting a little overwhelmed and discouraged because I relax and color my hair vs being natural. While avoiding any chemical on the hair will prove best for the hair; I dont want to go natural. It’s a beautiful look, but not for me. So I was glad to see that a lot of bloggers still rely on old skool products, and they use what works best… Read more »

yanoui
yanoui
8 years ago

I say different people , different habits, different opinions , different choices , different options , different techniques, different day, different results. Everyday you are unique. That is also why there are so many options, so you can go and find out what works for you and what you like best.

Lashawn
Lashawn
8 years ago

I am 39 years old and have had problems growing my hair due to lack of knowledge. Frm Jerry Curls,to perms,braids,twist, to weaves.……you name it I had it. During my last pregnancy four years ago my stylist refused to perm my hair until I gave birth. Frustrated with her choice I began researching alternative hair styles I stumbled upon lace front wigs. Wore them during my entire pregnancy while my natural hair lie braided underneath. Six weeks after giving birth my stylist premeditated my hair and to our surprise it was shoulder length! MY NATURAL HAIR HAS NEVER BEEN SHOULDER… Read more »

Monet S.
Monet S.
8 years ago

I remember using Ampro Pro Styl gel. It made my hair flake badly, especially the clear ice, so my mom had to mix water and vaseline with it.

I wouldn’t go back to using the gel, I do like the curly custard but I have found ways to deal without it when there is a tight budget.

Not sure if its considered old school but I love that Hollywood Beauty Tea Oil and I even figured out how to make my hair look straightened with it. <3
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Freckelz
8 years ago

I had to get some tracks put in for a fashion show nov 11th and i used the glue remover stuff that was based in mineral oil, i have washed my hair atleast 15 times and it is still icky greasy and sticky due to the mineral oil…i hate it any advice on how to properly remove this gunk from my hair

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