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Question of the Day: Black men and S‑curls

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Are s‑curl juice and texturizers the black man’s version of relaxers and weaves??

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Busybee
Busybee
11 years ago

I won’t compare it to relaxers. I might be wrong but relaxers on women seem like they have a stronger psycho-emotional effect than on men… I for one can NEVER date a man who uses S‑curl or relaxers… Hell naw.

Mzblackerdaberry
Mzblackerdaberry
8 years ago
Reply to  Busybee

I second that.

Moni
Moni
11 years ago

Personally, I think that men who use s‑curls are pathetic. There is absolutely NO reason for it. Imo, they don’t even look good. It’s just a 21st century jerry curl. I love a man with nappy hair!

NinaG
NinaG
11 years ago

Yes, it is. Eurocentric beauty standards impact men as well — have you all listened to Wale’s new song ft. Chrisette Michele ‘Shades’?

I think it has become oppressive the way we talk about ‘natural hair’ among black people — women are always the target but I have seen men try to straighten their hair or use s‑curls to make it ‘curly’. I’m also not convinced that fresh fades are ‘natural’ lol.

Q
Q
11 years ago

Yes!! I had a boyfriend who would do it every once in a while because he thought his hair looked better with it in. He was also a little “complexion-struck” as he admitted to me that he preferred women with my complexion and up. Needless to say, that didn’t last! LOL

Shari
11 years ago

Leila, I am so glad you posted this. LOL. I dated this one guy in high school and he had an s‑curl and he was sooo concerned about his hair, I couldn’t touch it or he’d freak out. Like Q mentioned, this guy was a variation of complexion-struck. He was hair struck. This guy would go out of his way to introduce me to his friends and say, “This my girl Shari, don’t she have that good hair????” Ugh.

Chinye
Chinye
11 years ago

This has been on my mind too! I remember when I first realized that men used texturizers to get the ‘wavy’ hair- I naively assumed they just used some good ‘ol grease and tied a wave cap on. My current bf explained the whole process to me, that most guys buy the box from CVS or something and its just like a relaxer but less harsh. The only thing I could thing was ‘really’. It just sounded way more deep than women getting perms (because at least with females, you’re socially taught its just the thing to do) whereas when… Read more »

Ayo I.
Ayo I.
7 years ago
Reply to  Chinye

Umm, that’s wrong…I used to have waves…most guys do not kit (what we refer to as texturizing) anymore, and it’s even less popular for people to kit now that they’re finding out that it is harmful for your hair and scalp. And the only reason people would kit for waves was because they had really nappy hair (like me, I’m African), and it was really hard to get good waves with just a brush and a stocking cap. Having waves has nothing to do with wanting to look like the “white man,” it just looks nice. Anyway, because of online… Read more »

sewdope
sewdope
11 years ago

shari! ewww he would really introduce you like that. lmao! that’s so weird. i’ve never liked texturizers on men. IMO men should not be that concerned with their hair. again that’s my opinion.

NinaG
NinaG
11 years ago

Chinye, yes, the doo rags/wave caps! I almost forgot about that. Who’s gonna make a docu-comedy about this???

Monica
Monica
8 years ago
Reply to  NinaG

HAHAHHAHAHAHHA ! lol, I second that 🙂

AfroKisses
AfroKisses
11 years ago

Interesting thing is…I actually know some guys who have parents that are against them growing their hair out at all and I almost get the impression that some of them use s‑curls and other things as a way to get a little variety since they are not allowed to grow out their fro’s. I’ve also noticed the attitude especially among the parents of some people my age that a guy that wears his hair long is either feminine or no-good. Yet, if they get something done to their hair they just have “good hair”. I feel that the mindset concerning… Read more »

Nicole
Nicole
11 years ago

I’m going to say yes in the sense that s‑curl and a relaxer are essentially the same. A relaxer that contains sodium hydroxide, and it does it has the same effect. Loosening the curl pattern, only with relaxers it’s loosened until it’s straight; and they’re both permanent. If you ask me, one could probably achieve the same effect with a little Kinky-Curly and not have to deal with permanent alteration, but to each his own I suppose.

BajanPrincess 82
BajanPrincess 82
11 years ago

Wow. Do dudes really do this? I thought the only man putting a process in his head was Al Sharpton.

Amma Mama
Amma Mama
11 years ago

Yes I think that s‑curl juice and texturizers are the black man’s version of relaxers and weaves. I used to think that was naturally Bobby V’s texture when he 1st came out with “Slow Down”. When I found out it was an s‑curl it turned me off. Anyways, I remember watching Making The Band on MTV and Diddy was giving Day 26 makeovers and he had the stylist give Robert s‑curls. I though it looked really bad. I preferred that they just cut his hair but not put that stuff in. Diddy used 2 rock an s‑curl heavy back in… Read more »

jadedpoet
jadedpoet
11 years ago

@Chinye Some guys do use the good old grease, brush and wave cap method LOL My little bros do. 🙂 I noticed that guys use texturizers *Bobby Valentine* or perms Katt Williams* so nah can’t say its a black guy’s version of a perm. lol For a guy it just may seem to be more popular since its seems less feminine to use for some than a perm. I’ve seen so many dudes with perms I have to go nahhh man, they use both LOL My husband when I met him had in a texturizer. I thought it was his hair texture honestly… Read more »

Amma Mama
Amma Mama
11 years ago

When I think of s‑curls or texturizers, I think of “Soul Glo”, I think that’s why it leaves such a sour taste in my mouth but I honestly never could tell a man had an s‑curl until someone said they had the s‑curl. I always just assumed it was the guy’s natural texture. In the end, whatever makes him happy!

Jc
Jc
11 years ago

I agree with you Jaded. I do find it very interesting to that there is a consensus that men with treated hair look odd yet by the same judgement women with relaxed hair apparently do not look odd. I think very often men with a looser curl whose hair naturally waves end up getting tainted with the same brush. I am all for banning stereotypes. I will be honest and say that I too never liked the idea of men treating their hair, however, I am now of the opinion, let each person walk their own path, I’d rather see the content… Read more »

Rocketgurl
11 years ago

I think perms/texturizes maybe comparable to women with perms. Especially when it’s to the point that men/ women define themselves with their altered hair. If they just can’t bear to be seen without their altered hair, then its a problem! Before meeting my now hubby in person, he described himself with curly hair in a phone conversation. But when I met him and smelled the activator in his hair, I felt like he lied and I told him so. I asked him if I described myself with long wavy hair, but wearing a long weave, would my description of myself… Read more »

kindredb
kindredb
11 years ago

Yes. When I was a senior in high school, I was at my best guy friend’s house and I went into his bathroom to get him a q‑tip or something. So I open up the medicine cabinet and a box of s‑curl fell out and hit me in the head. Up until then, I thought he just had curly hair because both his mother and sister had very loose coils. I brought the box to him and I was like, “Why do you use this???? What’s wrong with your hair just the way it is???” Because I thought s‑curls and… Read more »

Sharon
11 years ago

It’s the consensus among me and my sisters that guys with s‑curls are lame. I suppose it comes from the reasoning that women are expected to be more high-maintenance, getting relaxers and our hair done. And I’m seriously low maintenance, even when I had a relaxer, so if I see a guy w/ chemically processed hair that lets me know from the start we’re probably not going to be compatible in that aspect. LOL

labelfree
labelfree
11 years ago

A few of my SO’s friends actually relax their hair to get waves then apply S‑Curl products. I found that to be mind blowing since I never even knew men used relaxers or even put that much thought into their hair *shrugs*

Brit
Brit
11 years ago

no, because it’s not culturally/socially expected for them to have s‑curls. and thank God it isn’t the norm, because it looks a hot greasy mess. and why do they always look like they’re about to do something shady? [tell me bobby v doesn’t look diabolical in that photo!]

T
T
11 years ago

I so totally have to leave a comment for this topic…I had not idea that guys used texturizers and s‑curl stuff…until…I dated this guy and I noticed his hair texture and I asked him if he was mixed with anything. (at this point I had only met his moms side of the family and no one had texture similar to his)…and you know what this low life told me! “I am mixed with Cuban” (yes he was a low-life as this would be the first of many lies). So one day, (we are still dating) I see him with this… Read more »

skeeta25
11 years ago

I don’t think I would date a guy with an s curl. I dunno, It just seems to say so much more about them than just an s curl.

RinnyRiot
11 years ago

Does anyone else think that this Bobby Valentino cover looks like the box of “Sportin Waves” hair kit?

HarlemCurls
HarlemCurls
9 years ago
Reply to  RinnyRiot

I took a double take… swore it was! hah

MissyD
MissyD
11 years ago

So I’m not gonna lie, I had to look up what an S‑Curl even is. I don’t get the point of it. Like relaxers, whats the point? Especially when you can achieve the same results without a permanent commitment. S‑Curls are like the mans relaxers.

Can’t men achieve waves with a good brush and some beeswax? And then some dudes naturally have those type curls, don’t they? I’m now very confused about men of African descent and their hair.

Dahvee-doo
11 years ago

yea i think texturizers and s‑curls are the equivelent to women with the weaves and perms . its all hair manipulation …

Kyja
Kyja
10 years ago

FINALLY SOMEONE ADDRESSED THIS!!! S‑curls simulate “good hair” for men relaxers simulate “good hair” for women the exact same thing just like many people would want to have hair like mixed (black/white) people, curly with body and moisture, not nappy, stiff and dry little do people know, black people’s hair (nappy,kinky, whatever u want to call it) can be manipulated [WITHOUT CHEMICALS] to be curly with body and moisture, straight, or whatever i wish i had known this before i subjected myself to the creamy crack most black guys dont want to rock an afro these days, and dont know how to style their… Read more »

Tonia
Tonia
10 years ago

My husband has an aquiantance who has an s‑curl. My friend and I call him Pretty Ricky.

Nene
Nene
10 years ago

I’m really surprised that many women here don’t know or didn’t know that guys do stuff to their hair. Guys have always done stuff to their hair. My dad used to tell me about something called “conkaline” or something like that to straighten their hair.

I don’t have a problem with guys doing stuff to their hair. I don’t like the fake hair. I did encounter that once and it startled me. I don’t really like bald heads either.

Adria
Adria
9 years ago

Thats just not attractive to me, I don’t think its attractive when guys give more attention than needed to themselves. Thumbs down to pretty boys!

dj
dj
9 years ago

i find it funny how women dnt like a guy that takes care of his hair( not meaning relaxers just taking care of it “pretty boys”) but can bet 100% of women dnt want a guy walkin around smellin like booty lol.…isn’t that all apart of taking care of yourself?

Catherine
Catherine
9 years ago

I’ve seen a guy with permed hair. I believe he was Jamaican. It was weird. I know Terrence Howard had beautiful, wavy hair in crash. However, I don’t prefer it. I love curly, coily and kinky haired men. They’re unbelievably hot for some reason. I’ve always loved it. I have no problems with straight hair either. As long as you rock what you were born with. Men with permed hair…I really don’t know what to think. It’s not necessary at all. Maybe they have issues with natural hair (I know every guy in my high school was like that). I just don’t… Read more »

E
E
8 years ago

I dated a guy for a while and at one point he had braids. Well he wanted me to put a relaxer in his hair so that it could be wavy (but he didn’t say that until after)…lol…i told him not to (i was relaxed at the time). He was so upset and his hair was ruined…lmbo!!!!

Steve
Steve
8 years ago

Why are there soo many black women hating on s curls? Its not like we are looking like Rick James.
Braids, locs, afro styles means your man might not
get a better job than the Dollar Store. If you want a different style as a black male, your choices are limited.

tom harris
7 years ago

Hair style is an individual personal preference much like clothing or shoes.Ultimately all three accoutrements provide cover and a desired style that enhances our appearance.Self hate need not be the reason for any fashion statement.However ignorance may be the reason why people have a need to harshly judge those who simply choose to exercise there right to freedom of expression.If it does not affect you then why are you triping?

Steve
Steve
7 years ago

I see the reply of a lady in the earlier message saying how fake her man was because he had an scurl and he lied and said he was Cuban. (There are many Afro_Cubans and black Latinos, look it up. Remember slave trades.). So, would you feel better if he lied to you and told you he was Jamaican and had dreds or plaids in his hair? Same thing right??

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